Welcome. Welcome to silly speculation Saturday. It's kind
of like Fun Fact Friday, but probably no fact
it's on the same
feed for this is not Fun Fact Friday tactical we we kind of
rate this show and 1213 or older. We don't cuss. We don't
talk about crude stuff but you know, but it can get it's not
for the five year old, deeper. Right. So what are we talking
about?
We're talking about the moon landing
the moon landing, quote and, quote. So what do you know about
the moon landing in 1969?
Um, not much, because I thought I knew a lot about it. So I
didn't pay attention in class. Oh,
so the story is,
they landed on the moon, and then they put a flag in and they
laughed. That's all I know.
So it was it was a big deal. There's this thing going on with
Russia. And it was called the Space Race. Right. And we
decided we were gonna go ahead and we're gonna go ahead and
just land on the moon. Right. And when it when it all get the
gold medal, big foam being number one, right. And that's,
that's what they that's what they said we did. They showed it
on TV. They're like, hey, look, we're on the moon. Wow. Yeah,
they can't, they came back home and everybody would never is a
hero. And everything worked. Well.
I don't understand how people are heroes like that.
But then I mean, okay, so it's super brave, though. Because
nobody had ever done that before. It was super dangerous.
Right hero in my mind is someone that's like saved the world.
Right. But, okay,
that's hero has different different meanings.
Yeah, everything has different meanings to different people.
Yeah. So. But if you go in and look at a lot of the stuff
surrounding the moon landing, there's a lot about a lot about
have that done lineup. Right. So there's a lot of people out
there. And the thing it didn't happen. Yeah, I think it was all
a big TV production. And they think it was all directed by
Stanley Kubrick. Who did this about a look that you see in the
chat. Yeah. So the moon landing. There's a lot of inconsistencies
with the lighting. With the photos. There's a lot of
inconsistencies with like, they they had a they had color
cameras on the shuttle, but not they didn't take the color
camera with them.
So my thing was, we were watching a video in class and
our science teacher was very anti hoax, stuff like that.
Right. So it said that there was no wind on the moon, but it
looks like claymation. Red read. They had the flag going into the
soil. And it was kind of like waving a little bit. Well,
the waving flag thing. Yeah. I tried moving. I try. Yeah, I
could try and look at things from both sides. I'm not all
100% gung ho, no, we absolutely did not go. But I like asking
questions. And that brings brings it to a lot of a lot of
things. I was listening to a podcast recently. And there was
a conspiracy theory in there shows kind of about conspiracy
theories. And they were talking about, well, there's this other
theory about this thing. But the people who said that are part of
this crazy group, so I'm not even gonna listen to them. And
I'm like, Well, hold on, where did they get it though? Like,
you shouldn't not look into something because a crazy person
has said it or repeated it. Like because I can say something
completely true, and evidential and fact based, and then some
crazy person can get on the internet and say it and then
people will dismiss it outright. That's not That's not right. So
I got Ted
Bundy. So the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. That
doesn't make that wrong. Just because Ted Bundy said it.
Yeah, so I like to ask questions. There's somebody
talking about that there's somebody talking about the flat
earth. Right. And they were talking about it and they said,
I don't believe for a minute that the earth is flat and
covered with a dome. And I think a lot of the people who do
believe that are off their rocker, but they're asking the
right questions. And what he meant by that was that Why are
you taking the things that are told to you at face value?
Because the person saying them had a lab coat on? Yeah, or as a
paid government official? Because there's many, many,
many, many instances of government officials lying.
That's not even controversial to say. So the the whole thing is,
is I want to ask questions about things when I see something
inconsistent. And if you come back with a really like a good
answer that makes sense to me. Cool. Yeah, we're, we're good to
go. But one of the big things is there's this thing called the
Van Allen radiation belt. Yeah, I've
heard of that. Yeah. Really cool.
I was telling you about the other day. And how did they get
through that? And not die. Like, it's supposed to kill people.
I'm looking for. Let's see
that thing with one of they sent the satellite to the sun. Like,
huh,
okay, yeah. Okay, so this is another this is about the
sun, or the sun. This is about Seoul and sort of, let
me find that, because I'm going to turn my thing now. Tell him
tell him about it. Okay,
so we watched a video about it in science class. And it just
looks like a whole bunch of like security cam footage from
outside the whole bunch of bugs and dust. Like it didn't look
like anything. Like super scientific. It was just like,
oh, yeah, that's bugs. Instead of oh, look, that's the sun.
So let me let me give a little background. Because you're just
talking about the video. Okay, so they can't see it. So
basically, they sent us satellite probe to go, quote,
unquote, touch the sun. Right. And they sent back video from
this probe, which was inside the sun's atmosphere.
Yeah, now that inside of the
corona, you can you can, you can outfit a satellite with heat
resistant things. Very, very, very thick, heat resistant
shell,
but a camera, but how did they get the footage? And I brought
this up to my science teacher. And she was like, well, well,
it's, it's fine. It's a camera and I'd got the footage. I was
like, Okay. I want to meet Oh, crap. A few of the teachers
listen to this. They're gonna bring it to her. Oh, no, no. I
love you slam teacher.
Lille as actually genuinely liked a lot of her teachers.
I have. I don't.
I haven't heard her complain.
I don't hate MIT science teacher.
Of course you don't know. Anybody. Right? But now I, you
know, who knows if I poisoned your brain with asking about how
the camera took pictures inside the sun's atmosphere. I try
really hard not to though I try really hard when something comes
up. And it's a controversial topic to not poison your
thinking one way or the other. Because I genuinely want to hear
how somebody who doesn't know anything about it thinks it's
tough because I want to tell you things and
same thing that I was talking about what the dust and the
bugs? i
Sorry, good. I believe
in like spirits and entities. But I don't really think that
ghost orbs are a thing. Right? I think that it's just dust
floating around because of air movement. But I'd love to hear
about spirits and stuff. I think it's really cool. Oh, yeah. I
just,
you just don't know if you actually believe it really. So
okay, I went on. I want a podcast called abs and a six
pack not for kids. And it was about the moon landing. Like we
did a whole episode about it. I think it was called Buzz because
Buzz Aldrin was one of the astronauts. So I said on that
show, and I've said actually on a couple of shows, because I've
gotten a couple of out there conspiracy theory type shows.
And I always say I don't 100% believe that we went to the
moon. I don't want to under percent believe that we didn't
go to the moon. I don't know. But whichever story is the most
entertaining is the one I'm going to gravitate towards. And
the story of a deep government conspiracy, involving lots and
lots of people is more interesting to me than like
faking the moon landing is a more interesting story to me
than us actually going to the moon. And that's just me. There
was a story that Kim Jong Hoon found some unicorns in North
Korea. Yeah, there was a it was official news source in North
Korea said that Kim Jong Hoon fell On some unicorns
in North Korea, and I think
I'm gonna say that but who am I to say he did?
I'm not even gonna say they're gonna get nuked.
I'm like, Yeah, who am I? Well, I got really close to the mic.
Who am I to say that he did not find a cave full of unicorns? I
don't know. I have no idea. And you know what? I choose to
believe that there's a cave full of unicorns in North Korea, I
choose. I choose to believe that. And you're not going to be
able to tell me otherwise.
They're all over there in North Korea.
So okay, let me let me get back into more of the dialogue. We do
not love North Korea. People in North Korea that are stuck
there. Yeah, yeah, but we love you. So Stanley Kubrick is
supposedly the one that they got a hold of to make the moon
landing, right. This is according to the theories. And
he was always troubled by it. And he made the movie The
Shining by was a Stephen King novel, he adapted into a movie
he adapted definitely it wasn't, was not the book. But there are
so many little nods to the moon landing in the movie that you
can't, it's almost like he made a confession of I did it. I
faked the I faked the moon landing. I found these people on
a soundstage. And it was all fake. And there's just there's,
I'm trying to think of a couple of things that make me believe
that what we saw now, whether they went to the moon or not, is
a completely different question as to whether what we saw was
real, because they have may have went to the moon. But what we
saw was fake it. I mean, yeah. So one of the things is the
lunar lander, if you look at pictures of the feet of the
lunar lander on the moon, and underneath it, it supposedly
slowly lowered itself down using retro thrusters to lower itself
to the surface of the moon. If you look at the ground
underneath it, this super, super fine sand supposed to be on the
face of the moon is an undisturbed completely. It's
completely undisturbed, as if the lunar lander was set there.
Like lowered down into position like claiming without Yeah. Like
it's a set. The other one that really bothers me is there's a
famous picture from the Moon of the earth on the horizon. Yeah,
but where they say could have
been, like, painted? Yeah. Made? Yeah.
Most of the stuff that NASA puts out is an artist's rendition.
Yeah, I have no problem with 3d assets, as long as you tell us.
Like there was a picture I saw recently. Yeah, the black hole
picture, if you look at the actual what it really look like.
It's like, okay, there was a picture recently I saw of Saturn
with the sun in the background, and it was said that it was from
the Hubble Space Telescope. And that doesn't make any sense.
Because the Hubble Space Telescope orbits Earth. Yeah. So
there's no way that we can look at a telescope. Telescope, it's
not gonna work like that, because Earth is closer to the
Sun than Saturn. Saturn never goes between us and the sun. So
it's pretty cool. There's little, but who knows, that
picture might not have made it may not have been from NASA. But
there's, um, there's a lot of pictures from NASA that they get
all of this radio information and all these, like different
wavelength pictures and things. And it doesn't, it's not pretty,
you know, it's either black and white, or there's just a bunch
of distortion. But then they pull out all the radio
information and do their best guesses as to what color things
will be and then make it pretty. And it gets people interested in
space. And you know, that's, I guess that's a good thing, you
know. So, yeah, if you look at the Okay, here we go. We've got
a link in the chat. From DIY photography.
And from Yeah, do my photography.
Look at the lenses. Here's a look at the F. The F the F stop
level 0.7 lenses that Stanley Kubrick used. Okay, I'll put
this in the show notes. Thank you for the link as well as a
gal. Thanks. Thanks, Gail. Gals a robot. Thank
you Billy Bones. Yeah,
the photos have been artificially enhanced and
colorize pretty much
all like really bones has done more. Like fact finding
Yes. Well, that's the thing or the community builds the
podcast. Yeah. Without without the community You were nothing.
On some karma. You believe on some karma in the chat, you can
get your own karma if you want to join us in the chat on when
we go live can give yourself karma. Nope. Gouden allow it.
Yeah. dogbone says the other big deal with Kubrick was the lenses
that we're at the time recently invented, that made specific
shots possible. The very specific shots for the moon
landing. So it's very, there's just a lot to look into. And
there's a lot of things that people say, Oh, this is the
smoking gun that we didn't go to the moon. And it's not. It's
actually explainable using the official narrative. But there's
just there's a lot of inconsistencies. And I just want
people to look into it. And I want more than anything, I just
want people to be able to question the official sources of
things in their own brain. You don't I mean, if that makes
sense, like, like, there's some people who just cannot question
an authority figure. And I don't I don't understand that. I'm
like, that's just a person. You know, it's just this group of
people who work at this place. Their job is to get their
department of the government money. Like funding, right?
Yeah, you get funding by getting the public to demand funding for
something. How do you get the public to do something? You show
them something cool. You're like hey, look, we did this cool
thing at NASA and then people were like, Oh give NASA more
money they're doing cool stuff. You know and then the
politicians are like ah but anyway, just wondered
word permanent test after this.
Oh, you haven't How long has it been teacher? The word permanent
test?
I don't know. I hate where permanent tests.
Do you ever use Mavis Beacon typing teacher? Oh, man, I
should totally get Mavis Beacon. MAVs. It's Mavis,
I thought it was madness. No,
she said her name is beacon Teaches Typing. Okay. All right.
Okay, so typing too much.
Why don't you read about what your what you read. Now I'm
going to take a sip of my drink.
Okay, I don't have much source. You I was mainly just going to
listen to you and agree with what you're saying.
No, you gotta question it. I just wish I had the pictures to
show you. I'll look up some pictures while I'm I'll get my
drink. That didn't
hurt. Let's see. Phil Plait. Phil Plait Phil Plait has mixed
feelings about the moon landing hoax. The Moon Landing hoax
still lives on more than 50 years after Apollo 11, the first
crewed mission to land on the moon. He is frustrated that he
and others like him still have to debunk the hoax theory. From
time to time. 50 years after the first moon landing, then again,
plate became famous because he's so good at debunking in the
first place. Back in February of 2001, Fox Broadcasting ran a
documented documentary titled conspiracy theory. Did we land
on the moon plate? plat, I think it's plat coincidentally had a
pile of research ready from a book he was working on. And a
friend sent him an advanced copy of the show, so that he had time
to write up a response Okay, hello. Your mic is muted.
I turned it down so I could drink my drink without going
into the mic.
That was a pleasant noise.
Yeah. Likewise said there's also during the Fun Fact Friday
episode. There's also a theory that the moon is a huge space
station. Oh, and I see this is this is from mirror.co.uk. And
it says Video unavailable. Conspiracy conspiracy theorists
believe that the moon could be a hollow satellite, kind of like
the Death Star from Star Wars. Alright, so basically, they're
just saying that humans, how many years ago flew here in the
moon. All right, and we've just left the ship out there and took
some like, you know, smaller ships to actually land land
there. And I said the moon has a lot of helium in it. And they
they hollered out. And anyway, it's an interesting theory. I'll
link to the mirror.co.uk site that they talked about a little
bit, but it's got some cool art. To go along with it. Let me link
this in the end. The Chat Room X astronaut escapes assault
charge. Have you heard about this one? Billy Bones just
posted the link. Buzz Aldrin punched the dude in the face
after he told him that the moon landing was a hoax. All right.
You can read about that. At the BBC dot Coda UK link in the
show.
There's two pictures of a black hole on my screen. And they're
two different black holes, but they look very similar. I guess
that's because they're both black holes. And I'm just not
very black hole. enthusiast. But like, yep, yep, two black holes.
Yeah,
it looks like somebody was playing with their, like,
Photoshop, and they were playing with the blurred Smear tool.
Yeah, and they put a little bit of red, smeared it on black.in
the middle,
but okay, so um, it's been said, by somebody in the chat that I'm
trying to create rebels. I'm not trying to create rebels. I'm
trying to create critical thinkers trying to create
trouble not afraid. I just want people to question authority,
but also accept answers that that makes sense. And position
your science teacher? Well, yeah. And like a lot of people
will get into get so deep into a conspiracy theory or a alternate
theory of something that when it's proven, they can't be like,
oh, oh, okay. They'll they'll move the goalposts. You know, I
mean, yeah. So it's like, Dude, you absolutely cannot hold up
three fingers. You absolutely. It's just undoable, and then
somebody holds up three fingers, and they're like, no, no, you're
not holding them up, though. That's just like gaslighting.
Just, you see what I'm saying? It gets like a cute girl boss,
you got to keep you got to be able to be like, Okay, I was
looking for this proof. And you've just given me that proof.
So there we go. That's, you know, not not a valid thing for
me to think anymore. I can still write fiction about it, you
know?
What else do you have?
I don't have a lot of like things to read or things like
that. But what I'm going to do is I've got a bunch of tabs open
right now, I'm gonna put some stuff in the show notes. Just
interesting. People to listen to about the whole thing. Bart
Sobral is the guy who got punched by Buzz Aldrin, and he's
actually got a couple of movies about, about the moon landing
being a hoax and all that. And, you know, you can't, because he
get it, some of the stuff is easily explainable. But there's
also a lot of things that NASA does that are very shady. Even
just when you're just talking about, like, the pictures of the
Earth. If you zoom in on a lot of the pictures that are from
NASA, there's a lot of copy and pasted sections, like very
blatantly photoshopped. And they're like, well, we take in a
lot of pictures, and we had to paste them together, because you
can't take one picture of the entire Earth because we don't
have a camera angle law. But then they're like, Okay, so you
actually you actually just this section right here, you just
copy and pasted this exact set of pixels. And he's like, Well,
yeah, you have to as like, what? Why do you? Why do you have to?
Like we have to use we have to use our artistic skills on some
parts of it. I mean, because you know, you have to write Yeah,
okay. Okay, Boomer. But yeah, if you're interested and you're not
a kiddo, check out my episode of ABS and a six pack about the
moon.
Was that just generally about space? Or was it about the moon?
The first one
I went on was just about the moon landing. Okay, and then the
next one was about space. Yeah, the next one was about space and
we just got goofy on how it was. It's a goofy Yeah, but space is
fake. It's fake. Space in itself is fake. Yes. Not just
everything like Yeah.
I believe that none of us are real. No one's real. I'm not
real.
Okay. So on abs in six pack. I show you when I told you should
I told. I told Sir, she said are the host about last Tuesday
theory. Have you ever heard last Tuesday that last Tuesday carry
you and no one else can prove that anything existed before
last Tuesday? Yeah, everything could have come into existence,
including your memories. Everything could have come into
existence last Tuesday, and there would be no way for us to
prove that anything happened before it. That's true if
everything came into existence exactly how it was including all
human memories.
I also have this weird thing of my dreams that I can't tell my
dreams from reality. Oh, really? Because they're so realistic.
There's like, I have a different world in my dreams. Like it's
all coherent. Oh, you've got a
shared universe, a shared
universe. Yeah. It's much more interesting than my life. I
gotta say.
It says Absurdism. Yeah. My dreams. I've got a couple of
places that I visit regularly. Not on purpose, but just
recurring dreams, you know? Yeah. But I don't have a shared
cinematic universe. I do.
My most recently is that I visited my dreams. Those are the
cool library, a cool library. That was a cool library. And
those are cool, dude. They're just wishful thinking to get
away from
all of the just wishful thinking to get away from the heat. It's
hot out there, folks. It's not a heat wave
today. I actually got a like, severe heatwave warning when I
woke up this morning. Oh, yeah. I have a focus mode on so I
don't use my phone past my bedtime. And it like when I woke
up in the thing turned off. It was like, severe heat warning.
Yeah,
it was hot. I'm not seeing it being hotter than in memory. But
it's hot. Yeah, we've had some pretty hot summers here. So. But
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when it comes to the moon, I just have to say with the moon
landing, I don't know. I don't know if we landed there. I
especially don't know if we landed there the way they said
we did. And it seems skip. I'm skeptical. As all say that
picture I didn't finish talking about the Earth was on the
horizon. There's a picture of the earth on the horizon of the
moon. That's not really on the horizon. It's
just it's above it's, it's above the horizon. Where they are on
the moon, if you map out where the landings were, you need to
have a pop filter where Yeah, and I'm talking directly into
it. That's a problem. When when you look at that picture, if
you're they would have to look directly up in order to see the
Earth from where they were standing on the moon when they
supposedly took this picture. So they could not have physically
gotten the picture that they said they did now. Is it a cool
picture? Yes. Is it probably just pieced together from
different pictures? Yes. But say that, you know, when you when
you lie about one thing, it makes me think you're lying
about others. And that makes me not trust anything you say? So,
just tell the truth. NASA just tell the truth. And more people
will trust you. Don't you? Look over spoiling a rubber band at
my face one of those hair rubber bands. You leave everywhere.
I should throw Hornaday Yeah,
the little paper Hornets? Yeah, we used to have to put
thumbtacks
in there. Yes. Who does a psychopath? You are a
psychopath? We do Hornets but we don't put thumbtacks in them.
Sometimes someone's dying out.
I never just you did
you've told me about it.
Yes, we used to make the little paper horn is that you shoot
each other with the they're fun? Yes. And they're super fun. We
used to have little wars in our class whenever the teacher would
leave the class. The second that door closed. Wow. And then
people not me, per se. Started putting some texts in the
paper you think It was so cool.
We all started wearing safety goggles.
Y'all are absurd.
Our would, our woodshop class had safety goggles and we would
just go get we had a pile of them. Get the safety goggles.
Because if you get a little cut on yourself, it's whatever but
safety goggles will protect your eyes. All right, safety is
important. All right, so we're gonna wrap this silly
speculation Saturday. What do you think? Do you think that we
landed on the moon in 1969?
Not 1969. But we might have and we might have gone past the
moon. And if
so do you think we're we're humans have gone past the moon.
Probably not humans, but stuff that humans have made. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, I can see sending stuff out there
and possibly cameras. Yeah, and then sending pictures back I can
I can see all that. That's that's feasible. I just don't
see humans getting through that Van Allen radiation belt if that
even exists? I don't know. The radiation lady. The radiation
lady.
Yeah. What do you think girls are discovered radiation? Oh,
Marie Curie. Yeah, Marie calendar.
Marie calendar discovered radiation and that's why you she
makes microwave meals right. Marie? Marie Marie calendar?
Microwave.
Oh my gosh. I'm funny. Anyways. Oh, using the metal shear in
spot welder to make cheap shurikens. Yeah, nice. Y'all are
crazy.
We used to play a game called jagged metal piece.
Yeah, I've heard that. We do that too. But
you played jagged metal piece. Where did you get your jagged
metal piece?
I don't know if we had to make our notebook.
Probably. No, we took a washer. And our washer is yeah, like a
little disc. And we took it to the belt sander. When knuckles.
bloody knuckles Yeah, by ankles. But yeah, we take the washer and
cut it into like spiky, spiky, sharp points all over it. And
you take your pencil and you flick it across the table and
somebody had to had to stop it with their finger. Like by
sticking their finger in the center of it as it was flying
towards them or would like stab him in the stomach. These are
not games that you should be playing. Please don't do any of
this. This was all very dumb.
We did do the knife game but with pencils. The knife game or
the Oh, you put your hand flat and stab in between each finger.
Yeah, I
got really good at it at one point.
Yeah, I started with the pencil. I started with the pencil eraser
just to get the motion. Really good. Yeah. And I worked. Worked
my way up to the like a pen. Awesome childhood. That's a
That's a fun game you got and you can do it without any
danger. Like you just gotta use a pencil eraser instead of a
sharp point.
Instead of a knife.
There's a guy on the movie Alien who does that with a really
sharp knife. And he's a robot. So it doesn't matter if he
stabbed himself. Yeah, all right. Actually don't don't do
anything that we say on this show. Because this is silly
speculation Saturday. Alright folks, we'll see you. We'll see
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