David & Leila: Hello, and welcome to Friday,
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There's almost always facts, which may or may not pan out.
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FunFactFriday.com. So Lila Yeah, what we're talking about this
week. You don't know. Maybe this guy knows. Maybe this guy knows.
Who do we have this week? Vantrue bands
Bandrew: of podcast age podcast, EJ,
David: oh, podcast, EJ, and on the YouTubes. But podcast.com is
where you want to go to follow it, right?
Bandrew: That's correct. Yeah. podcast.com always send people
to your URL.
David: Yes, we send people to FunFactFriday.com. However,
however, when we send out something and we want people to
like, listen to it right there. Sometimes we'll put a link to
like, curio caster, or one of those new newfangled modern
podcast apps, that does all kinds of cool stuff, like
chapters and whatnot. Yeah. But yeah, this week, we're gonna be
joined by our guest, Andrew Scott, a podcast, EJ and I like
podcast, EJ, don't get me wrong. I know that you're big channel.
But I actually like Bandaru says more. I enjoy that. Because it's
a it's about more things. wants to tell us a little little bit
about the difference between the two channels.
Bandrew: Yeah, so podcasted, but we didn't mention what we're
talking about this week. Microphones? Oh, yeah.
David: Oh, yeah. Microphone. Well, we'll talk about that in a
minute. Let's hear more about Andrew
Bandrew: outcasted I review audio equipment, microphones,
interfaces, preamps. All the like. So it's it exists to help
people get better audio. The banner says podcast, I just rant
about whatever the heck I want. And that's why like be content
creator news. And because most people found it through
podcasts, which I get, I answer a lot of questions about audio
there as well. But there's even some times I'll talk about
philosophy, okay. Unintentionally,
David: it that I think is what probably got me hooked. Before
we get into the microphone talk. I like when when you were
talking about things like you would start talking about like
being having your own website, your own.com where you'd send
people there. Or I don't know, if you have a mailing list. I
don't I don't think I've ever heard you mentioned one. But
other people have this like get get your listeners, your people
on your mailing list. And I think that was when I started
really like listening to bands who said actually subscribed. I
rarely subscribe to things. But I was like, Yes, this guy, this
guy gets it. But um, okay, so I, oh, sorry. We're getting off of
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Leila: with only him.
David: I've only I'm the only one with a story. And I've
actually got to get my phone out to tell the story properly.
Leila: And I accidentally deleted the OneNote so Oh. I
meant to think this notebook but I hit delete
David: this notebook. Oh, I think you were the owner of the
notebooks. I think you just deleted it for good. All of our
show notes for 153 episodes. It'll be fine. Okay, so there
was this guy, I'm looking in my bookmarks on x.com to find this
video, and apparently I did not bookmark it. So there was this
guy who was driving down the street with a full grown bull in
his car. He had cut out the, the passenger side of his vehicle
and put a cage around the passenger side of the vehicle.
Oh, we just got a boost. Awesome. We'll read that in just
a second. But he had a full size bull in the entire passenger
side of his car. He got pulled over. And this is I don't I
don't have the full news report. But this is how I imagined the
interaction going. You know what we're pulling you over, sir.
Well, it's probably the bowl in the side of the car there. Yes,
sir. You can't do that. That's illegal. Now hold on a minute,
because last time I got pulled over last week. I was driving
down the road. I had my phone in one hand and my coffee and the
other and nothing touching the wheel. And that officer told me
that I had to steer the car. What? Steer steer the car. Okay.
Leila: I don't know what that means.
David: A steer is a bull. i Oh, okay. Well, you could have said
I had to steer the car. Okay. Okay. And there's the link it
is. Let's see. I'm opening the link from chat, which is always
dangerous. moving violations. Link will be in the show notes.
This bowl is as big as the car. It's fantastic. But yeah, that's
it. That's the news story. Got some clicking going on over
Leila: there have the one note on my phone. Okay. I figured it
out. I just accidentally closed it on my computer. So
David: Okay, gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah, it's still it's still on
the probably on the OneDrive. Oh my gosh. Okay, so yeah, the show
notes are going to have the whole thing. Wow, there we go.
And loot. Listen to that. Look at that. Dred Scott boosting
55,555 Satoshis. I don't have the air horn sound sound on my
board.
Leila: We need to make a specialist. sound board. There
we go. We need to get special.
David: Clipping that Dred Scott. Yeah. Well, I I wanted to record
there's a section on there's a movie Blazing Saddles, not a
family movie. But they're talking about something or
other. And when somebody says would you do it for Randolph
Scott, who is old, old western cowboy, hero, right. And like,
there's this Randolph Scott. Like, there's like a choir
singing it and everything I wanted to like hire a choir. But
it's expensive to hire a choir to just say like Dred Scott. And
I tried to do it with just my voice now. It was horrible. Even
with auto tune. You know, I have a saxophone now. Now that's
true. You do have a saxophone.
Leila: Alright, a saxophone. Thanks for
David: speaking of phones and tiny versions of them. Oh,
micros. Let's talk about microphones. Now. Typically, I
like to start with the history of the item. Because this is a
fact show. And I looked into the history of microphones and
microphones were invented. Correct me if I'm wrong bandroom
microphones were invented in 1978. By Joseph microphone. When
he went to his neighbor, Rick Mirantis, his house with his
regular sized phone. And Rick Maraniss had a machine in his
attic. That shrunk the phone to a micro size.
Bandrew: I could not have summarized it better. Okay, that
is a perfect description of the history.
David: I used AI to come up with a summary I had a six page
dissertation on it and the AI summed it up just right right to
that. No, okay. So do you know when microphones were invented,
Bandrew: I don't know the exact year but I believe around the
1800s. The later portion of the 1800s is when recordings came
around and back then, I don't know if they would be classified
as microphones. They were more horns, that directed sound down
to a stylus that would carve this sound into a wax cylinder.
So less of a microphone and more of just a horn. I don't know if
you classify that as my I'm
David: sure I would so that's the definitive answer then.
Alright
Leila: so sometime 19 hundred's
David: Do you are you looking it up? Leila? Do you take it live?
Leila likes to fact check live as we're going through stupid
stuff. Yeah for things that we bring up that aren't part of it
and I had the actual invention date pulled up but guess what? I
closed that we've just been window closed and fools on this
episode. Mid seven or 1877
Bandrew: Okay, so I was I was correct in the later half of the
1800s and yet
David: yeah, there's a date before that
Bandrew: they're lying Hold on.
David: No, no, no, no. Okay, this is cool. This is what this
is what I like because like, we will pull up as we'll pull up
notes will and I will be looking at different different sources
and will get completely different information from two
very reputable looking sources. Totally. So in 18 No, sorry.
1665 the English physicist Robert Hooke was the first to
experiment with a medium other than air with his invention, the
lovers telephone, which stretched a wire with a cup
attached to the end. So it's like the old thing you did as a
kid with like, a can of beans with no beans in it?
Leila: Or a solo cup?
David: I guess you could use that if you want to go low
quality. Yeah. With the string tied between them. I guess that
is a microphone on the strictest sense. It doesn't. You can't,
wouldn't be able to record it. Sure you can. It does. Convert
the sound waves into a vibration on a different medium and then
transfer them so somebody else can hear them. Technically at a
different time. Right? Yeah. Different time different
location you go so 1665
Bandrew: That's interesting. I never would have considered
that. That's a very good fact that you have found Friday we
are well on the way to fulfilling the promise of the
show.
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David: Fun Fact Friday. We Oh man. We gotta I want to I want
to tell people about our new project Leila or so want to tell
them but I want to be I want to be done with it. Before we even
announce it. Oh, it's so exciting. We have something
really cool coming up. Bandra. I'll tell you about it once
we're off air.
Bandrew: I'm excited. Yeah,
David: it's very exciting. So okay, so what got you, you into
microphones?
Bandrew: I got into microphones because I was in a band and we
needed to record but we were in high school and couldn't afford
studio time. So I went down to where every aspiring recording
artist goes nowadays, which is RadioShack and bought a
microphone that connected to the 3.5 millimeter input of my
computer's motherboard.
David: And was what kind of mic it was it was just like the
whatever you can grab for the money. Yeah, just
Bandrew: a Radio Shack dynamic that germinated into a I think
it was a quarter wrench. So I got a quarter inch to 3.5 mil
adapter as well. To plug into the mic input of the
motherboard.
David: RadioShack was the place to get adapters. I had every
adapter you could possibly imagine to go from like the CD
player because I wanted to get plugged my CD player into my
boombox to the boombox I had didn't have a CD player, but I
had a portable CD so I had to get the adapter to do that and
then and then I wanted to plug it into the TV because I was
going to record the CD onto a VHS tape. Not for any reason
other than I wanted to see if I could do it. Like record music
overtop of something I was recording to put my own
background music in a movie. I don't remember if I ever got it
working but I just remember going in there every time I
needed an adapter of any kind it was great. Yeah. Are they still
around? RadioShack
Leila: I've never seen one. I can look it up
Bandrew: RadioShack actually shut down the short the stores
and they came back a year or two as a crypto company.
David: Oh yeah, there is a dude bought the name RadioShack
didn't he?
Bandrew: I think so. Yeah, I
David: think some guy just bought the name and was using it
for a bunch of stuff.
Leila: They got a really weird have to look at this. What
Mason?
David: We are renovating radio shop but this is radioshack.com
is renovating like eyestrain and then there's a whole their story
their team, huh? We're gonna have to dig into that. Maybe
that deserves an episode. We'll have to find. We'll have to find
an old l RadioShack. Manager in question.
Leila: Totally or someone that can pretend to be a RadioShack?
Manager? Yes. This is what we do here. Welcome
Bandrew: to RadioShack. Do you need any batteries?
David: Oh my gosh, the RadioShack batteries lasted like
30 seconds in my game here. Oh, wow. So okay, so you went and
bought a RadioShack microphone and you were just like this.
This is what I'm going to be known for.
Bandrew: No, I had no not at all. So we just needed to record
something to get into battle of the bands at high schools. So
that's how we did it. We just plugged it in. We even record it
directly on a boombox. So there wasn't any love or deep interest
at the time, it was just a means to an end. Even when I started a
band in college, I didn't have too much interest in it, it was
just out of necessity, I need to record demos, right, I need to
try to write a song out. So I would either do di plugging my
guitar directly into the computer through an interface or
getting an SM 57 and putting it directly in front of a guitar
cab. So it wasn't some oh my gosh, this is an amazing topic
to focus on. It was just a tool. And then a couple years later,
after I finished college stopped playing music. I wanted to start
a podcast and I started researching mics and couldn't
find what I was looking for. I couldn't find the videos with
the tests I want same. So I just started making the videos that I
was looking for. Because I was a huge fan of YouTube. I had been
uploading to YouTube since 2005. If you can believe it, it's been
around that long. And I just love to YouTube. So I thought
I'll share what I can try to offer value back to people.
David: And you've been I know that you've been a podcast,
especially evolving your method. As folks give you like a hey,
you know, if you compare it to other microphones around the
same price, that would be useful. And that's what I find
extremely useful about podcasted. When I was looking
for this mic, the se v seven. I wasn't looking for it
specifically, but a dynamic mic that I could use for use for a
podcast that wouldn't break the bank and sounded good. So I was
like, Well, let me go see what let me go see what Andrews got.
And I looked around looked around and you have a higher
voice than I do. So sometimes it's a little tough. Oh, we got
another boost. Sometimes it's a little tough to like, but you
also describe you know, this gives you a lot of high end.
This gives you a low, you know, low end that cuts off this. And
I was like okay, so based on what you said, this V seven
looks like it's the one for me. And I think it sounds pretty
good to be 100 bucks, you know?
Bandrew: My all time favorites.
David: What what are those ones we have? Yeah, CB seven. Oh, we
have vintage edition. I have the green one. Yeah, that's the
vintage edition.
Bandrew: It's one of the best looking microphones out there.
That vintage finish on it is that they are dead.
David: It's for the folks who don't have who aren't sure it
has like that green. Almost like a 1950s. Metal. Like you think
of like an appliance from the 1950s would have it
Leila: like, what's that statue in New York?
David: The the statue that represents freedom or something?
Yeah.
Leila: That color
David: statue in New York. I've got lots of statues in New York.
That one
Leila: though. You know what I'm talking about?
Bandrew: Yeah, I think it's rocky right? That's
David: the rocky that's in Detroit Right? Was it wrong? No,
Phil it was a Philadelphia right to Detroit. I don't know. I
haven't seen Rocky in Philadelphia. I've seen rock
elfia And we just got another boost from Dr. Scott Well,
what's the same amount with the same message that may be a
duplicate 55,555 more or something's wrong there's a
repeat of the same the first one either way, thank you again Dr.
Scott for that appreciate that. We like the live boosts when we
go live and Okay, so you you started you're like hey, you
know what, I don't see a lot of of microphone reviews. And I
want to I want to start just just putting it out there and
has it always been Have you ever just like oh man, there's
there's people making money doing this. This is what I want.
I want to I want to get out there and and I'm gonna be like
the hottest microphone review channel, and I'm gonna use
clickbait titles and, and weird pictures of me making funny
faces on my thumbnails to try and make a million dollars on
the YouTubes
Bandrew: 10 out of 10 Absolutely I every single video I try to
make it as click Beatty as possible. So our pilots
something along the lines of sure SM seven B review slash
test compared against the electro voice our e 20.
absolutely
David: got to get them clicks completely clickable, you got to
just the
Bandrew: most clickable, most enticing title that has ever
been made.
David: We did an episode on clickbait. You got to have your
face on. Yeah, you got to have your face like doing the Home
Alone face. There's oh my gosh, there are so many YouTube
channels and they make so much so many views and everything
telling you how to do your thumbnail to make people click
your video. And I guess if you're going for mass appeal,
you got to use those slight little psychological tricks, but
um, excuse me. Yeah, that's that. You seem to be more niche.
Bandrew: Yeah, I never expected a YouTube channel about
microphones to have 1000 subscribers, let alone 300,000
So do you feel
David: like the the COVID situation got you a lot more. A
lot more viewers and listeners because of people wanting to
start podcasts because there was a huge boom right around. I
mean, we started a month after COVID lockdowns went into place.
Bandrew: Yeah, big time. So right around, I think it was May
were really picked up for me. I think that's because people
realized, Oh, we're gonna be working remotely a lot more. So
it was less everybody filling their time with podcasting. And
more. I need a mic to sound good. So my boss doesn't think
I'm an idiot. So I think that was a lot of the the boost in
audience that I had. And I looked across all the other
audio YouTubers, everybody had a big bump. And on top of that a
lot of people were just stuck at home looking for something
interesting to to learn about
David: just watching watching more YouTube in general. Just
and that now that that's Thankfully all over and will
never come back. Totally. Full on loop, pull on your caller
there. That's all over and we'll never come back. Do you think?
Have you seen Have you seen your numbers go down to specifically
since you were you did get the huge bump from COVID?
Bandrew: Or? Yeah, absolutely. My views and everything is down.
I'm looking at figures that are 2015 2016 numbers back when I
had 10,000 subs. It's a mix of things, I think we see drops
because not only are people going back into the office, not
only are people losing interest in making podcasts, but people
have less disposable income. So they're not going to spend it on
something like a new microphone. Right? If they have a decent
microphone, as I bumped my elbow, they're going to be fine.
They don't need to upgraded every year like a phone, you
don't feel that need. And that's the beautiful thing about mics.
They have an incredibly long life. You can get a microphone
and use it for 30 years. That is unheard of. In modern day
society.
David: We have we have about 10 CEOs of microphone manufacturing
companies that are in our audience. So just absolutely
don't give them the idea of making ones that only last a
couple years.
Bandrew: Now that was outgoing XLR analog microphone, please.
And thank you.
David: Yeah, I like that. And but, and like I said this SABC I
love it. I love the way it sounds on my voice. And it's
going to last so long. But then that doesn't let me go look at
other microphones. You know, because I'm one of those people.
If I've got a good pair of shoes, I'm not going to go
looking for new shoes. Even if I see a nice pair of shoes and
they're a good deal. I'm not going to get them I've already
got a pair of shoes. So now I will buy different mics for
different purposes like this one. If I'm doing voice acting
of any kind, I don't use this one. I'm going to use unless the
sound sound I'm going for. I'm going to I've got an AKG over
there that picks up a lot more it's a condenser mic so it picks
up a lot more subtlety and you know you want that so, but I'm
not gonna go buy another condenser mic because that one
sounds good enough. So my my new shiny syndrome doesn't get
doesn't get appeased as much as I would like.
Bandrew: Well, I think there are two different kinds of people,
there are people who look at microphones simply as tools. The
se v seven for both of you is just a tool, you get it to
record your voice for a podcast, it does that it doesn't Well,
you have no need to upgrade. You have the AKG, you have no need
to upgrade. But then there are people who have a sickness in
the brain like myself, who are constantly seeking a slightly
different tone. Oh, that the top end on this is ever so slightly
smoother. So I think that's worth a couple $1,000 more. No,
no, it's not. But it's that sickness in our brain that tells
us Yeah, that's justified. So I think there, those are the two
different kinds of people who look at microphones. And
David: I was gonna be you started the channel before you
bought a bunch of microphones. I was like, did you start the
channel just so you could write off all of your, your sickness
purchases? As tax write offs as a business expense?
Bandrew: No. So I had that microphone that I'm on right?
Well, a different microphone. But this is the model that I had
before I started the channel. It's the one that kind of
inspired me to start the channel CSM seven B. And it's still one
of my all time favorites. So I know people hate the SM seven, I
don't understand.
David: Why do people hate it so much? Because it's popular.
Bandrew: And on top of that, it's because it is popular. And
that means that a lot of people who don't understand what it is,
or if it's right for them, they buy it, they misuse it. And they
put out audio that sounds bad. So that leads to the SM seven be
getting a worse rap ends up getting panned kind of like the
Blue Yeti. The Blue Yeti is a fine microphone, it works if it
fits your use case. Yeah. But a lot of people misuse it. It's
designed poorly in that regard, where a beginner doesn't know
what side to speak into, you'll see a lot of people speaking
into the top,
David: it's because of the like it's like it's a stage mic, and
they're talking into the top of it.
Bandrew: Exactly. And it also has multiple polar patterns. So
that means it picks up audio in different areas around the
microphone. And as four of those people don't select the correct
polar pattern, which leads to it picking up far too much room
noise. Far too much reflections. So although it is a fine
microphone, it became too popular, and too many people
misused it. So the Blue Yeti got a bad rap as well. And the SM
seven B, although it's a different style of microphone,
and a completely different price point. Yeah, kind of it has this
same syndrome. It's gaining the same reputation as the Yeti in
that regard.
David: Yeah, I've I've wanted to try an SM seven B. And just for
the I know that it's supposed to be good at background noise
reduction, which is not as much of an issue now that we've put
up sound treatment of the walls and things like that, but just a
mess with one. But they don't have any microphone rental
places around here.
Bandrew: And also the I did a bunch of testing, it's a bit
outdated, because there are a lot more broadcast dynamics now.
But when I tested 13 of them in one video. The seven B was one
of the worse performing in terms of background noise rejection,
so it was a it's not the best. If you're looking for background
noise rejection and you're looking at the broadcast dynamic
category, there are better options out there.
David: I feel like those the one we're using now does it does
Okay, except for like there's one sliver right here that if
something comes in from this direction,
Bandrew: I get about 70 degrees.
David: Yeah, so there's just like if, if I've got if I didn't
have the fan in the room where it is because normally I can
have the fan on and it doesn't really affect too much. But if
when I had the fan in a different spot in the room, it
would pick it up even though I wouldn't pick up stuff next to
it. There's just that one spot that's sensitive to it. Yeah.
But it's neat and you know, you want to use different
microphones for different stuff. Leila Did you have a question
about?
Leila: Yeah, what's a good microphone for like an
instrument?
Bandrew: What kind of instrument
David: your instrument Yeah.
Leila: And the saxophone.
David: She's She's AXA
Bandrew: phone, okay. It's So the saxophone. I've never miked
up a sax, but that has a very harsh top end. There may be an
audio engineer in the chat room or listening who's going to
scream, but my thought would be some kind of ribbon mic, maybe,
because that smoothes it out. But it could also be He wants
all of that detail and crispness. So a condenser
microphone may be the right choice as well. But it's also
really loud. So you need a condenser mic that has a high
Max SPL, what that means high sound pressure level. So if you
have a low max sound pressure level, you can make the
microphone sound distorted. And if you have a really loud sound
source, like a jet engine, or a saxophone, I don't know why I
pulled those two very similar sound sources. You can actually
distort the microphone and ruin the recording.
David: When I when I started, we have we have the couple of
pencil condensers oh, maybe we can. We can try those out. You
can tune into those with your new saxophone. It is loud. Yeah.
Like, when she practices that thing. I'm almost like go out of
the studio. Because I'm like, No way. All the cool stuffs out
there. I'll go out the studio. I've got good my Nintendo games.
Bandrew: You You have a couple of microphones, you have three
different kinds. Try the dynamic, because that could be a
good one. The se v seven is fantastic sounding. It's
relatively neutral, it doesn't get overly boosted. But then you
also have those pencil condensers which if I'm
remembering correctly or the Behringer C twos, yes. Or were
they Okay, so with those those are used a lot on a know the
Samsung damn G zero twos. Yes, Caesar Oh, twos. So pencil
condensers are used a lot on acoustic instruments like
violins or stick guitars. So maybe give that a shot. Yeah.
And then maybe your your data let you borrow that AKG and try
that on there as well.
David: Maybe, maybe. But yeah, I started let's see my microphone
journey. And like I said, I'm not I try to only buy things on
eBay. I've the first podcast episode I ever released. I used
the ex Xbox 360 Rock Band microphone. Not terrible. It's
not a bad mic. Surprisingly good. Right. So the first
episode of media spot I recorded on that. And then after I got
two or three, maybe it was the second episode didn't know that.
Yeah, I gotta I gotta I was so funny how I had it rigged up. I
didn't have anything to hold the microphone. Except for the No, I
didn't even have the stand that came with rock band because we
bought it secondhand, and didn't have any kind of stand with it.
And then and needed it to be like in the same spot at all
times. And I was in this I was like under under a blanket to
try and cut out the room noises. So I took a wire coat hanger,
and I bent it and fastened it to where it would wrap around my
neck. And then like wrapped it around the microphone to hold it
directly in front of my face. Because I needed my hands I
needed one of them to like, hold the what I was reading. The
other one. It was just as it was the whole it was crazy.
Bandrew: So it looked like one of those harmonica holders that
Bob Dylan would Yeah, like a rock band microphone but
David: it was a rock band. I love him and made out of a coat
hanger. It was the coincidentally it was the same
coat hanger that I would use to get into the bathroom when I had
accidentally locked the door and closed it behind me and I needed
to get in there because I did that more than you would think
an adult person would
Leila: I've only done it once and I used a staples gift card
David: yep to get into I gotta get in there. I don't do that as
much anymore. I've learned I've learned learning has occurred.
Talking about the audio technician in the chat room was
going to scream about what she said blueberry in the chat
screamed but it was for something unrelated to the topic
at hand. So just let let me know if you saw that.
Bandrew: Blueberry and audio engineer.
David: Blueberry is a man of many talents. He is on the
behind the schemes podcast, not a good show. With lavish on
Monday nights at 1030 Eastern and he works on the road for
plays and does like he's done. I believe he's done Disney on Ice.
And he's done. Oh so he says yes he is a lighting sound and he
does lighting sound and something to do with goats. I'm
not sure if you if you listen The behind this game don't know
what he's talking about. Blueberry. He's a man of many
talents is very, very talented guy. And he's a friend of the
show you actually did an episode with this couple, four or five
episodes ago, talking about talking about be on the road. He
had some really great pictures of theater, behind the scenes
theater pictures. And he's he's lit up a lot of really cool
theaters.
Bandrew: So I would love to pick his brain about the actual audio
engineering that goes into live theater because that kind of
mixing has to be complex. Because you can't have 14 Open
microphones, if they're all wearing headsets. They're all
wearing the hair line mics. You need to have really dynamic
microphone mixing.
David: Oh, yeah, there's there's a dude, from what I understand
from what blueberry was telling me. Every audio guy that's
working the mixing board at a live show. They only hire people
with six fingers on each hand.
Bandrew: So they are very smart the way they
David: do. It's actually a very niche job.
Bandrew: But unfortunately, they've all murdered a nega.
Montoya's father, so they have to worry about that, that the
laws after him. Yeah.
David: Oh, wow. And he go Montoya. I told you he had the
he came up with the movie references Leila, like you're
gonna have some movie references thrown at you. Hard and fast
tonight. Oh, I had a whole a whole thing. Oh, okay. So after
that, I bought a Blue Yeti. Because everybody was buying a
Blue Yeti, it's the best microphone in the world, right?
For the price. And I bought it and I realized, wow, this thing
can hear my neighbors arguing three houses down. So I, I
messed with it, I got it to where I could use it. And then I
used that for quite a few episodes. And then and then
didn't didn't release an episode for about five years. And then
we started this show. As I started buying the gear we want
the Behringer 8500s. Because they're $25. And way better than
they should be at that price point. Absolutely. And then
bought bought an interface. And you know, we've been working our
way up ever since. And with generous donations from our
listeners, we've been able to afford a road caster Pro two.
And that replaced all of the other audio gear, which I still
haven't gotten around to selling. Yeah, but yeah, where
where are we? Are we now where we are? And I don't see us
buying anything else for a while. Yeah, I do enter all of
the microphone contests where they're given away free ones
though. So maybe we'll get some freebies that way.
Bandrew: That's the way to do it. Get the gear that's good
enough to get the job done. And then if you get something for
free, no bother. Yeah.
David: Or, you know, you always gotta be on the lookout for like
a really good deal like somebody's somebody else is
upgrading and they're selling their stuff for cheap, you know,
and you'd be like, hey, you know, I know you take care of
your stuff. And you get it off of them. I did sell the Blue
Yeti
Bandrew: but I'm going to share something that may make you kick
yourself I know that it's not popular to say there was a
glitch but there was a glitch on Shures website and was for about
six hours yeah I went where everything was 40% off
David: I did I saw it I went to the I was this close and for
those listening you know how when you put your fingers really
close together that's what I'm doing. Really close to getting a
couple of essence seven B's but even at 40% off I was like you
know what? I believe we had just gotten back from the cruise and
we had spent the money that we spent on the cruise and I was
like we don't really need
Bandrew: that's probably a smart decision. Yeah,
David: yeah.
Leila: We spent so much money on that cruise.
David: All right. And we got a boost from blueberry 17,776
which is the blueberry boost bandroom very much enjoy your
discussion on audio gear. I super easy not at all rabbit
hole. What what did you type blueberry? is super easy not at
all rabbit hole of a question. Okay, so I'm guessing a super
easy but I I have a guitar, old line six amp and a moku Motu MK
four interface. Not happy about the tones though. I'm hung up on
either moving in a pedal direction or perhaps it is or
perhaps is there more wiggle room with plugins. Also, would
you would you make your music bootable?
Bandrew: Okay, very good question. I have I have a few
follow up questions, but I'll assume we're not going to get
answer so well. He's in the chat. So yeah. If you are
recording the line six amp directly into your interface, I
would say stop doing that. Unless it has a line output
that's designed for that, it's likely going to sound funky,
it's going to sound wrong. What I would recommend is getting
something like an SM 57. And putting that mic on the actual
line six speaker on the speaker cabinet, because that's how we
actually hear the guitar amp. So that's what's going to sound
most natural. You do have another option, though, where
you don't use your amp at all. Yeah, mic, the amp is the best
route to go. The other option is using amp simulators. The way
you would do that, take a quarter inch out of your
electric guitar, plug it directly into your your audio
interfaces, instrument or Heisey input. And then record that
signal into your digital audio workstation, which would be Pro
Tools, Logic Pro GarageBand, something like that. And then
there are these things called amp simulators, which take that
raw guitar signal. And they simulate an actual guitar amp so
you could then change it. After you've done the recording. You
can try a bunch of different guitar amps to get the exact
right sound.
Leila: So Vantrue Where are you a nerd?
Bandrew: Why Why am I a nerd because I have no life. Too much
free time. Like I was listening to this and you're like
David: her eyes are just glazing over.
Leila: Yeah, it's fun. So
Bandrew: the the reason that I am so nerdy about audio is
because I find it so amazing how accessible it's become. Because
that means that a lot more people are going to be able to
get their artistic or creative ideas out to actually convey
their ideas. And that's pretty cool to me.
David: It is it I think that's really cool. And our philosophy
about being a nerd on this show is that literally everybody's a
nerd about something. Yeah. When you're a nerd about microphones,
you may be a nerd about your own kids, you know every single
possible thing about them and you talk about them all the
time. And you may be a nerd about football or politics. You
know, there's being a nerd about Leila is a nerd about fun. Not
fun factor Fridays. Five Nights.
Leila: I don't talk
Bandrew: to facts with Freddie. Freddie.
Leila: We're starting a new podcast. That's actually a
surprise. Totally.
David: What would it be? It'll be brains. Fun. Five facts night
at Friday, Friday. We've been
Bandrew: saying that five times fast. I'll do it later.
Leila: I'm a nerd about brains.
David: Yeah, she's she's really into like, brain chemistry. All
that stuff.
Leila: I like the way that people's brains work.
Bandrew: Okay, that's very cool. Very complex. Make sure to steer
clear of ABI normals brain.
David: Abnormal. I'm unfamiliar. onken.
Bandrew: Steve. What?
David: What?
Bandrew: Frank Frankenstein. Young Frankenstein. Whoa, okay.
Gorgos to get oh my god ox over the normal one and it gets the
abnormal. Abnormal. Yep.
David: Okay, it has been 7000 years since I've seen them.
Leila: I don't even know what you're talking about.
David: There's Well, I'll tell you later. All right. I'll learn
about so. So yeah, it I enjoy the fact the microphone it lets
like what I do with me this pod. I love the fact that I can get
voices from people all over the world. And then I can go into a
DAW and I can make it sound like they're in the same room
together at the same time. With their, their voices bouncing off
the same walls and being interrupted by the same
background noise. And it's just it's an amazing, amazing thing
you do like like blue, blueberry and the chat waveforms can
change the world. And it's yeah, it's it's honestly a fairly easy
thing to nerd out about. Once you start start looking at it.
Like I learned that the they sold just the like the capsule
for the SC seven se v seven. And like you can get a wireless
thing and put it on there. And you can you know there's
interchangeable parts. I want to build a microphone. I never
Well, I've always wanted to like not always, but ever since I
started looking at him, I was like, This doesn't look that
complicated and get the soldering iron out and go grab
some. I don't know what what vibrates a bee's wings, I'll go
rip up these wings off and strap some electrodes to it and get a
read. Yeah, gotta read from the saxophone and hook some
electrodes up to it. So, and any any tips for us? As we start to
venture into video again, before we were streaming, we were
Simas, streaming to our own website, using open source,
video streaming software, and Twitch. Would you recommend even
doing a YouTube channel at this point? Is it even is there even
a reason to start a YouTube channel?
Bandrew: Absolutely. Absolutely, there is. I know there are a lot
of people who think YouTube is the bane of the entire world's
existence, that YouTube is evil. But YouTube is incredible. It
provides so many people the ability to get their voices out
there to share their what they're excited about and to
find an audience and community. Yeah, and as far as sorry, go
ahead. Yeah,
Leila: into nerding. out about what they're a nerd about.
Exactly.
Bandrew: And as far as finding that audience, it's so much
easier on YouTube, not everybody is going to grow a channel and
have 10 million subscribers. You may find that your channel maxes
out at 1000. But that's 1000 People 1000 People are
interested that have heard your voice. Exactly. And they care
about the same stuff that you care about or care about what
you have to say. And that is amazing. There's this whole
skewed, I guess, perspective or belief or hope that I'm going to
start a YouTube channel and become the next YouTube
millionaire billionaire. Why does it have to be that? Why
can't it just be? I found a community of people that I like
interacting with. And that's incredible. Most people don't
have that. That's amazing.
David: We that's kind of the way it was, I can't remember who we
were talking to about this recently. But we were like, you
know, we have, we've got a modest audience with this show.
Probably because we haven't marketed a lot, we've got a wide
appeal where you know, a fun educational show. That's kid
friendly, right? But then I'm like, we've got this many people
listening to us. It doesn't seem like a lot compared to what you
see on YouTube with some of these superstars or whatever.
But if you took that many people to interview people, right, and
you put them in a room, you'd be Wow, that many people show up
every week, to hear what we have to say. By choice, you know, and
it really is, it's amazing to think about, it's crazy to think
about, and then when I mean, we've done stuff to like we did
a Christmas parade here in town. And there was 15,000 people
there. And we were up there in front of them, they were
cheering for us. And we were just, we were live broadcasting
from the back of the float that we made for ourselves. It was it
was just it was just a truck that we decorated with a truck.
We made some banners with the show logo and like, you know,
listen to us on, you know, this, all the things we had a QR code
and but just getting the opportunity to stuff like that,
and like my wife has some co workers that listen to the show.
And you know, it's like, it's so cool that we have people who
want to listen to us, they interact with us, they send us
stuff. I know we've got a couple of our coffee mugs and on
people's desks at work, you know, it's it's so neat to to
build an audience and interact with them. I don't know what we
would do with a million a million listeners or viewers. I
don't know what we're going to do with that.
Bandrew: So you stress out, you stress out and every single
thing that you put put out is now an incredible burden. Unless
Unless you're irresponsible, and you just don't care about the
impact that you have. That's a horrifying proposition. Yeah,
having that many people listening.
David: Yeah, cuz you know, they're there. There's going to
be people that are going to cause problems in your
community, once it gets to a certain point. And they're going
to, you know, give you a hard time for literally everything
you do because then that's just how it is. Like, for example,
bully steed in the chat right now, me this video of the parade
or it didn't happen. Love you bullies to hear. I don't think
we have any Video. I know we do have pictures and the audio from
it. But nobody that I know of. There might be some out there.
But yeah, so I mean, did you have any questions for us about?
Anything? Let's try to thank
Bandrew: you. Yeah, absolutely. What is your favorite fact that
you have learned over the life of this podcast?
Leila: Rats? Don't I don't even know if I've mentioned this in
the podcast, but rats don't store anything in their bodies.
They just eat it and poop right out. Like, it just goes straight
through them.
David: Just grabs what nutrients can on the way through? Yeah.
Like,
Leila: that's so cool to me. So resting
David: when so when that mouse was eating the oats. We didn't
mention this on the podcast. I wanted to Oh my gosh. Okay, so
this is one of those things that would be so much better with
video. Are you going to tell what happened? No, you can.
Okay. So we have some food in our garage. Like where we store
stuff, you know, stuff you can put in a garage and not cause
problems with it. Right? Well, we had some oatmeal, some some
oatmeal from Sam's two big huge bags, oatmeal. And it was time
to cycle that into the house and you know, restock it. So it was
out there for a little while. Went to go grab it. And there's
a little hole in the top. Like now, Scott Scott. It was one of
the few things that we didn't have in a container that allows
couldn't get through.
Leila: But we also we looked at it and there's little poops
David: and almost no oats missing. Yeah, so this mouse,
this mouse chewed through the boss chewed through the bag at
the top of the bag. Ate a couple of bites oats was like you
turned around. And this hole was super tiny. So he had to like
back up to the hole in the oats. And drop a deuce.
Bandrew: He just wanted a restroom you wanted to toilet. I
guess it's made a good toilet again. And
David: it just ruined the whole two pound bag of oatmeal.
Leila: So isn't that expensive? We weren't
David: but still it was not Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't that
big of a deal just like two
Leila: years ago.
Bandrew: Well, it's it's the personal attack. It literally
has it out for you. It felt
David: personal. It did. It was that mouse ended up underneath
our piano. And it was a whole situation. I am looking for the
pictures bully steed. I will have to get back to you. I'm
writing and write that down to do that. For the for the parade
pictures. Yes. And actually, if I can find them that they should
be in the chapter file. For this episode,
Leila: he made a friend with this mouse.
David: I did. It was under the piano and you know those little
grabby things like it's like a maybe a two or three foot long
metal tube. And it has a pusher on one end and a little little
grabby claw comes out the end for picking up like tiny screws
when you drop them in the car engine or something. We got a
little bit cheese, I got a little bit of cheese and put it
on the end. And I was gonna like coax him out right? Well, he
made friends with the end of the grabby thing. I put it under
there and he pulls the cheese out and he like kind of like
goes to nibble on the the rest of the cheese on the little
metal piece. But then he started like hip pushing it with his
nose and like batten at it. And it was in a playful way not in
like an attacking it way. So he became he became friends with
it. So then I started playing with him, you know underneath
anyway, he didn't come out and then the cat got him. So poor
guy, poor guy. I felt bad. So proud. Yeah, the cat was very,
very proud that she she got got rid of the mouse.
Bandrew: Did she bring you a gift she did how you found out
and my wife
David: almost stepped on it barefoot. Because she loved it
right at the end of the bed. And it was during the night that
this happened. So she got out of bed and if she hadn't been
looking where she was walking she were to step right on it.
Leila: This is why I keep my door closed. She brings me
roaches sometimes
David: we find Occasionally she we don't have a lot of bugs.
Where we're at, thankfully, and when we do that cat is on top of
it. It looks at the spider she's afraid of spiders. Yes, she is
afraid of spiders. So
Leila: like bad at it in this way. She does not like spider
she's okay with roaches. And I don't
David: know what my favorite fact is. We've just had so many
I'm trying to think of one that was like like, wow, oh, you know
what? It has to be the volcano in the cornfield. It has to be
that one.
Bandrew: What is that?
David: So there was this guy? It's it's on our volcanoes
episode. There's this guy. And he was out in his cornfield and
it just started shaking and then boom like two days later,
there's a full size volcano in his cornfield. That's it. I'm
gonna find the source for that one. I'm gonna go to fun fact.
friday.com and click episodes, and then find the volcanoes
episode by pushing Ctrl F.
Leila: But we had a cert idea, but we forgot the volcano,
David: volcano. Ah, we're gonna have
Leila: like popcorn coming out of the volcano.
Bandrew: There you go. That's great. We can
David: make a I do it. Here we go. Volcanoes can grow quickly.
Although some volcanoes can take 1000s of years. Others can form
overnight, for example, the cinder cone volcano, para Kooten
appeared in Mexico and a Mexican cornfield on February 20 1943. I
love the way you just said Mexico, Mexico. Within a week,
it was five stories tall, and by the end of the year, it had
grown more than 336 meters tall.
Leila: What Isn't that ridiculous. So
David: my man's out there and he's like, he's like, all right.
So I got I got some corn growing. Just hanging out. And
then Marlboro barometer oil. And then by the end of the week, he
had a 50 foot tall volcano erupting in his cornfield, just
making it making it all popcorn. He went
Leila: on a vacation and he came back and he was like, where's my
corn go?
David: Where'd my field go? Why is it so hot?
Bandrew: That's shocking. That's that's something we need to be
worried about. Or aware about. I hate
David: it once a new fear gets unlocked. There was one Oh no.
Bandrew: When I buy a house, the backyard may turn into a volcano
overnight.
David: There was a house exploded I think in Pennsylvania
recently. Because there are mines underneath it. And gas had
built up in the mines and blew up the house. That was a that's
not a fun fact. But anyway. Stuff like that. New fear
unlocked. Yeah, there was one where a guy was driving down the
street. And I only saw the aftermath picture. Nobody was
hurt. Thank heavens. He was just driving down the street and the
car in front of them's tire hit a huge piece of rebar. And it
bounced just in such a way that it went underneath his car, and
then went to bounce back up, punched through the floor
underneath his feet. When he's driving, and shot up straight
past his face. barely missed his face and stabbed into his seat
rest had the head part of his seat rest. His head rest is what
that's called. That's what that's called
Bandrew: the head part of a seat rest. I like that better
David: bully bullies deed says hashtag climate change. Yep.
Volcanoes just erupt and
Leila: this is what we need to be worried about. Yeah, so
David: I'm like I'm like Okay, so now I got to worry about
random rebar just stabbing into my face when I'm driving that
now. I got to think about that.
Bandrew: That there was the tire that came off the truck in
California and just launched the the car into the air. 15 feet.
Oh, no. Yeah, that was really a popular video a couple of months
ago.
David: Another thing I'll put in the show notes if I can find it.
There's a very funny video. Not funny for the guy. But he wasn't
seriously hurt. So he was walking in a tunnel. And the
tire came off of the vehicle and hit him. Right knocked him over.
And then it's like a security middle video from inside the
tunnel, middle middle, and the tire goes further down the
tunnel. Well he gets up and gets us gets himself situated and
gets his bag or whatever he's carrying. Well, the tire had
rolled down the tunnel but could because of the speed of which it
came off. But it was going uphill. So it got to the top of
the hill rolled straight back down. And he wasn't looking and
boom right into his back knocked him down.
Bandrew: My gosh. Are you sure this wasn't kind of no it was
the watch that hill sketch or something.
David: It was though the cars were all trying to dodge it and
they were oh my gosh, it was so I will try and find that it was
like a year ago I watched it so I'll try and find that and put
it in the show notes if I can find it. So that's parade
pictures and the tire hitting the guy. That's what I got.
That's what I gotta find. So yeah, that's my favorite fact.
Volcanoes can grow quickly.
Bandrew: Thank you for that new fear. I needed that.
David: That there was a TV show. Manifest. I think it just
finished up a couple months ago that was part of the plot was a
volcano was growing underneath New York. So well I
Bandrew: remember the Why am I drawing a blank on his name
Tommy Lee Jones in the 90s action movie volcano,
David: which came out right around the same time as Dante's
Peak is, which is why I get the two confused.
Bandrew: Dante's Peak the Pierce Brosnan vehicle which is
incredible with Linda Hamilton if I'm not mistaken.
David: I don't remember. All I remember the scene at was LA was
a Tommy Lee Jones one. And they put up those traffic barriers to
hold the lava and, and they were spraying it with water hoses
from the firetruck. That's what I remember about them, right?
And then I remember in the Pierce Brosnan one, he got hurt
somehow, but survived for multiple days when he probably
really wouldn't have in real life. Yeah, and it kind of broke
broke my suspension of disbelief.
Bandrew: So to tie Dante's Peak to bring this full circle, in
Dante's Peak, Linda Hamilton is the mayor of this city. And
she's giving a speech. The microphone that she's using on
the lectern for that speech is the Sennheiser MD 441. You.
Leila: You're a nerd.
Bandrew: Classic, handheld dynamic. Yes, I take windows of
this microphone and a movie and identify them.
Leila: We were watching last the other day. And there was just a
girl speaking into a microphone, and I was like, oh, that's the
bla bla bla bla bla. And also,
David: it's always the SM always the SM 58. Every every
microphone on the cruise we went on was an SM 58. And they do not
take care of them. Those things were dented up all over
Leila: the thickness.
David: But yeah, I love it though. You're great at this. So
let's, we're sitting in an hour. So let's while we wrap up the
recorded show. We appreciate the boosts from drab and blueberry.
And yeah, check us out on store dot FunFactFriday.com Pick up
some merch. bandroom Why don't you tell tell the folks where
they can find you and what you want to plug.
Bandrew: Absolutely. If you want to find out more about
microphones if you're looking to upgrade your audio check out
podcast ditch.com podcasters.com. That's
pretty much it. And that's like thank you for having me podcast
with the word
David: age at the end. Exactly. All right. Yeah. So we're gonna
see y'all next week. We don't we may or may not have a live show
next week. We don't have any guests. But on the 14th we will
have Kayla and Emily from QBO the mechanical keyboard
manufacturers that we met at the convention, so we're going to be
talking to them on the 14th live at 7pm on that Thursday. Nice.
We'll see y'all next week. Stick around for the after show if
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