David: Hello, hello, welcome.
Leila: Welcome to Fun Fact Friday we are back sometimes.
David: Sometimes we have facts sometimes it's on Friday.
Sometimes they're not today. Almost always fun though. There
have been episodes with no facts, but lots of fun. There's
been episodes that came out on Sunday. But one thing in fact,
one thing's for sure. It's always with Leila and David.
Yep.
Leila: Sometimes, but we have someone else. We have somebody
David: else this time. All right,
Leila: who are you know?
David: We are joined by the one and only Ainsley Costello.
Ainsley Costello: It's so funny. So I feel like I'm already
getting off topic. Do you? Show me the conch? Philomena
David: conch? Yes, no, that's an awesome name, though.
Ainsley Costello: Well, she's so incredible. And when you were
just like, Hey, who are you? So she, okay, let me just like
explain the essence of Filipina conch real quick and I like have
forced my parents to watch many hours of Philomena with me. And
I will just like I will, I will preach her gospel anywhere I go.
So she's like a bit actress. But the character that she plays is
like she's really stupid, but she is out to create the best
documentary about anything. And so then, like she'll sit down
with all of these experts in their respective fields, and she
will be like, no science men it will you.
David: Who are you and what do you do? Wait, she's
Leila: the one that's like, um, it's hard to believe. I'm
walking in the first ever city. That was that was that girl.
Okay.
David: Did your best friends? Yep. culturally
Ainsley Costello: significant, the Renaissance or Single Ladies
by fiance and I love it. Oh my gosh, I could keep going.
David: We're definitely an off topic show. So don't feel bad
about that. Ainsley did an amazing live concert value for
value recently. You may have heard of her. And we we enjoyed
the show. And we reached out and and she came on, and we're going
to talk about music and this and that's another thing and Leila
Leila has got some interview questions that are probably
going to be extremely offensive. No. We'll bleep out any there's
only like a four minute bleep in the middle of the episode. Only
Ainsley Costello: some of them are wildly intrusive, it's fine.
David: So Ainsley, typically how we do this is we're gonna we
didn't nothing happen this week with us. Normally we do a catch
up with Leland, David, where we get what are we up to nothing.
We stayed up rang in the new year. I think we fired off some
bottle rockets. No. Three. That's not like we used some
legal in North Carolina fireworks. Yep. That's what we
did. And stayed up till about 3am. And that's literally all
we've done this week. Leila made some brownies. So other than
that, nothing big going on. Um, did you have a news story?
Leila?
Leila: I do. Do you?
David: I do. It's very short. But it's fun. So. And now, Fun
Fact, Friday news. What's your lead anchor? Leila? Oh, no. You
don't have your story pulled up. Do you know,
Leila: I was dancer. Alright. A Maryland woman.
David: That's it. That's it. Just a Maryland woman. So
Leila: for Christmas, she got a lottery ticket and her stocking.
And she She scratched it off and everything. Okay. And she won
$100,000.
David: So, the person who gave it to her, like, what was the
person who gave her the thing like mad? It No, no. So that's
the whole story is she just got a winning lottery ticket and
restocking. She said she'll put it into savings accounts for her
children. Oh, that's nice. Until she wants something nice. Yeah.
And then she'll go by Well,
Leila: that's what she thought was fake. Because her family
jokes all the time. Oh,
David: I've seen those. I saw those one time you could buy a
scratch off those supposedly like the jackpot. And then like
You're like pranked.
Leila: I thought that was cool. It was just a short little
story. So
David: mine is similar.
Leila: We have a new good news site, by the way.
David: Oh yeah, we found a new a new opponent. We usually just
use like the Good News Network. I pushed the theme song down or
the background music to calm down. Alright, so Jessica
Vincent, what was in a thrift store in Virginia. And like I
said, this is very similar. She bought a vase, this ugly, ugly
vase. And this is from the AP news.com link that will be in
the show notes. So you can see the base for forward dollars, it
was worth $107,000. That's how
Leila: it beats sometimes.
David: That is, don't be sometimes. Now I will say here's
a pro tip if you ever visit a larger city, if you find where
the rich area is, you can go on Zillow and look for like most
expensive houses, go to thrift shops and goodwill type stores.
Goodwill. In particular, I don't like Goodwill, but I'm that type
of thrift store. And they're going to have the best stuff
because you think about the people that live around there
that go donate stuff they're donating like name brand stuff.
Ainsley Costello: Exactly one time my I had a friend who did
that she went to one of like the nicer Goodwill's, and one of the
like bougie areas in Nashville, and she got like a $50,000 like
Prada bag or something. And I was like, that's what Girlboss
thing is like, we're gonna sell that off and then pay for the
album.
David: There you go. Like,
Leila: I always get super nice shirts at thrift shops. But I
always look them up afterwards to make sure they're not like
$1,000 before. Oh, dang it.
David: You never you never know what you're gonna get a thrift
store. Yeah. We were in a nice area in the Charlotte, North
Carolina metropole metropolitan area. And we're one of the nicer
neighborhoods in the area. And this concludes Fun Fact. Friday
news. Okay, there we go. We always do that we end up with
the music play into half the show because we go off on a
tangent. We're professional podcasters so yeah. Oh, and
don't let us forget we're gonna send you some stickers and stuff
since she's right now. Yeah, she's more responsible than I am
with notes. In the Charlotte area, I went in there and it was
all name brand stuff on the on the clothing shelves. And then I
got a set of like, ridiculously priced golf clubs. Just a full
set. I guess somebody had upgraded and I got it for like,
you know, $12 or something like that something ridiculous. So I
came back to town sold those golf clubs bought a super cheap
set from our goodwill or no Salvation Army bought a super
cheap set from there because I was playing golf in high school.
And then took that extra money and bought video games flip the
good golf clubs for some cheap ones and video games. That was
the the fast move that right? Like
Ainsley Costello: Absolutely, it's it's so easy to see why
that that's something that people start doing. Like they
get lucky once and like, I can flip clothes, I can flip houses,
I can flip things I find at the thrift shop. And then it's like,
four years before you ever find something of value like that,
David: right? It's a if you're wanting to do that, like flip
thrift shop stuff or get go to the storage auctions. Did that a
little bit. Not worth it. But there was a tree, there was a
tree, a tree, somebody had a tree, a tree and I didn't buy
it. It's like they opened the storage unit and there was just
a tree in it. Like a like a cut up tree.
Leila: Like somebody was like probably like a yard around.
David: Somebody was paying money to store a tree in diameter cut
up just a bunch of cut up wood. Yeah.
Ainsley Costello: In what worldly? They think that would
be like lucrative? Well, if they're just storing it
David: expert woodworker, maybe, and they were waiting for it to
dry. And they just they had to move and then just stop paying.
I don't know, but nobody bought that storage unit because you're
literally just paying money to have to get rid of this chore.
Yeah. But I bought a few and you end up digging through
somebody's old junk, and maybe find one or two things. I found
a like a Gameboy Color. And one of the ones I bought. I found
some art that was worth some money. I haven't I haven't sold
it yet. We went to
Leila: that auction. And I had $10. And they were like, if you
can start off the the bid for $10. Good for you. And I did not
talk that whole time. She didn't care the
Ainsley Costello: last time. Absolutely not. Right. But
David: if if you're going to be flipping stuff, it becomes a
full time job just like anything else. It's not like a get rich
quick scheme. No, at all at all, because it's actually more work
than just working. And there's no guarantee you're gonna find
anything.
Leila: Hard. I mean, I go to thrift shops and like
liquidators a lot to try and find fabric. Oh,
David: yeah. Yeah. That's those whenever funny thing, good
palette stores. There's a place here that buys returns from
other stores. And they literally just throw everything into these
bins. And they're like, everything in the bin is $8
Anything that you can find in this bin is $8 What's
Ainsley Costello: that place called? Treasure Hunt. Treasure
Hunt.
David: Okay, cuz there's similar places all over with different
names.
Ainsley Costello: Yeah, we've got one similar here called
Ali's, I think yes. It was so weird. I went into it with my
mom one time and I was just like, I feel like we have one of
those. Yeah. It's wild. The vibes are weird.
David: Yeah, that Holly are always for the longest time
before before COVID They had a coffee station in the back and
they served really good coffee there and it's free. Like you
just go back and make yourself a coffee while you're walking
around all he's looking at all their good stuff. Cheap, I
believe is what they call it. Not a sponsor. But they Yeah, we
don't do ads, no sponsors. But we we will get a few things from
there. They have the brownie brittle. Okay, have you ever
had? Oh, yeah, they saw a lot
Ainsley Costello: of big bad rap for Christmas this year.
Absolutely.
David: Yeah, they sell the big bag there for real cheap. And
we'll go there for stuff like pillows because they have
namebrand pillows and stuff. And they are much cheaper. But it's
not a regular stop for us was like, Hey, let's go see what
junk they have in there. Yeah, totally. But the treasure hunt
place is more of its returns. So it's like half the stuff you get
in there is broken. But you'll find stuff like the sound panels
on the walls was back there. Yeah, I got a pack of 30 of
those for $4. And you know, that's extremely cheap for some
really
Ainsley Costello: good sound paneling that's can get
expensive really quickly. And
David: I've got Microsoft microphone, boom, arms for for
$5. Cheers. Yes, you got a $40 shears, good. Cheers. You can
find good stuff. But like it is a treasure hunt. You'll go in
there and most of the time is junk. But yeah. But we're not
here to talk about junk. We're here to talk about music. Music.
So, okay, so I I am not musically inclined. I am. But I
know how to look things up on the internet. So yeah, I did
some research and tell me whether this is true or not
since you're a professional musician. Okay. I'll do my best
music is just sound waves.
Ainsley Costello: Yeah, just that just about sums it up.
David: Like it's all complicated. It's just sound. It
goes to the like, whoo. Yeah, that's all it is. So I think
Leila had some questions she wanted to ask you. Do you have a
couple of minutes, I'm gonna meet myself and have a drink and
y'all can just have a conversation. So how did you get
into music?
Ainsley Costello: Oh, kind of just by coming into the world,
honestly, like April 7. I'm like, I'm in the music industry.
My dad, he's a lifelong musician. My dad went to LA in
the 90s. To do basically the same thing that I'm doing here
in Nashville. And so I grew up watching him play music. And so
even when I was born, and he got a day job, he always kept like,
playing in cover bands on the side. And I just have a lot of
childhood memories of like, going to see him and his buddies
play it Farlows in Sarasota, or this place or that place. And so
I was always just kind of enamored with that. And I have a
lot of memories of my dad like playing the Charlie Brown theme
song, like in the house when I was growing up. And then like,
you know, you start to get older, you start to wake up a
little bit and you see people in the world doing music, you see
people like performing on stages, performing at award
shows doing this doing that, and you're like, oh, oh, that's Oh,
so you can do that. Okay. And so the fact that my dad had already
kind of set that precedent of Oh, music is just kind of always
here. Yeah, always has been here. So I was like, Yeah, you
know, I want to do this. And so from a very young age, I was
like, Yep, I'm just musics. What I'm gonna do, for sure.
Leila: Thanks. So who are you? Sorry, some of you? Oh, who are
some of your musical influences? Oh, my gosh, I have a lot
instruments. And I was gonna be like, that's not right. Well,
Ainsley Costello: I mean, what we the people in my family do
name my guitar. So you could ask me who are some of the musical
instruments? This is Tina. We my dad named this guitar Tina.
There's a bunch downstairs. My first big girl guitar. His name
is dusty. Let me think my, my 12 string is called 12 South
because that's a neighborhood in Nashville. And then I have an
all white guitar and we named her pearl. So but musical
inspirations. I'm really inspired by a lot of the rock
bands that came out of Nashville, who you kind of
wouldn't expect came out of Nashville, like, I love
Paramore. I love the band Camino and Kings of Leon. But I'm also
really inspired by a lot of that like early 2000 10s Like really
sparkly, almost like recession pop. Like I love Carly Rae
Jepsen, and I've also been in a really big George Michael phase
recently, and then I also kind of am inspired by people that I
don't really think you expect me to be inspired by like I grew up
on a lot of cerebral Ellis and Norah Jones and Jeff Buckley and
kind of like because I grew up with a purist musician, Father,
my tastes are kind of just all over the map for sure.
David: That's her. Yeah. Okay, sir.
Leila: She's like, you wouldn't expect me to like some artists
and then I like love them.
David: So like, she likes Wilwood in the tapeworms is one
of your favorites. Well,
Ainsley Costello: then in the end? Yeah. Very. It's a very
indie sounding name, right. I was like, I feel like I know,
like, what they sound like, just based off of that name. Yeah,
David: but you don't, I think because he is all over the
place. Or the post, the post show we'll play a little clip of
her favorites will
Leila: would like I think, a million monthly listeners on
Spotify. And then well, one of the tapeworms only has like
500,000. So like that. Yeah. Last time I checked.
David: Leland, can you move your mic down and towards you a
little bit? Yes. Getting a lot of that static.
Leila: Okay, there you go. My computer makes a lot of static
this weird. Yeah,
David: we've the mics we use are very sensitive to EMF. So
Ainsley Costello: yeah. Or sorry, any ghosties you'll pick
them up whenever I'm in the studio and like I'm up on a mic
the way that you guys are right now and I'll have my phone with
me looking at lyrics. Like the producer. Whoever I'm working
with will be like Ainsley put your phone on airplane mode
because like it picks up
David: some mics or like these, these are real bad about it.
Because of the anyway, not going to go into mic stuff. We could
probably talk about audio gear for a while. Okay, Leila, did
you want to continue with your your list of questions?
Leila: So here's one the mom or the dad had not mom. Why are you
so sure? Yeah. Yeah.
Ainsley Costello: I asked myself this question every day. I truly
do. I think some cosmic joke. Gods mad at a past life and
they're just getting it taking it out on me now. But I Yes, I
am five two, and I wrote a song about it. And it's I just tried
to make light of a internalized Middle School insecurity. I love
it.
David: Have you tried getting taller? Very much.
Ainsley Costello: I've tried everything. I've tried the
vegetables. I've tried to milk I've tried the seven inch heels.
Oh my God feels work for like two hours
David: while you're wearing and then your ankles hurt and you
know your
Ainsley Costello: your feet hurt and then it's just all downhill.
Yeah,
Leila: I'm five one and I wear I only I only own platforms. Yeah,
like even my Converse have like a little bit of a platform on
him
David: stomping around in her big old boots.
Leila: Come home from school and take my shoes off and be like,
oh
Ainsley Costello: it's so funny. I have these. Oh, my I well, I
have a couple of crazy pairs of platform heels because a just
stilettos are terrifying, like medieval torture devices, but be
trying to perform in any sort of stiletto like,
David: imagine. Yeah, well, I don't imagine I've worn them.
Oh, I love that last a bit in high school. I had
Ainsley Costello: done a similar thing for my dad actually played
a gig in a dress once. Oh my gosh. I love that when you raise
it for Jim. Yeah, um, but I have a couple of pairs of really high
platform heels that I love. Like they're so like fun and spunky.
But so I have this for anyone who may or may or may not have
watched the live shows that happened a couple of weeks in
Minneapolis a couple weeks ago in Minneapolis. Links, show
notes. Oh, sick. So on the second night, when we played
first avenue, I wore my pride and joy Steve Madden pink pumps
that like I'm five, two, and I'm probably five, seven or five,
eight and those. But I in there's so much fun. They're
actually really easy to move around in. But I played a show
in upstate New York in July. And oh my gosh, well, many things
happened at the show. Honestly, that show it was honestly so
much fun. And one of my favorite shows that I've performed, like
ever. But it was the it was the very last song it was we were
playing my song cherry on top. And it was cool for a bunch of
reasons because the kids at that camp, they'd been playing my
music in the weeks leading up to my performance. So like the kids
knew my songs. And the whole time we were doing a set like
that they were singing, or they were chanting chariot. I love
the enthusiasm, but you guys are getting ahead of me. So we
finally make it to the last song. And they know the song so
well that they're singing the words back to me. So it's the
end of it really was the coolest thing. Like I get goosebumps
thinking about it. But so it was I saw that like they all knew
the words to this song. So I was like, Okay, we're gonna have a
moment. We're gonna have one of those organic moments where I'm
going to walk out from behind Mike, I'm going to take my ear
out. And I'm just going to sing to them organically so they can
hear me off the mic, I can hear them. And the other thing,
important thing to know is that for anyone who is not a musician
there, unless you're at like a stadium like gear level, chances
are you're going to be tethered to three or four different
cables at once like your ears, your in your monitors are going
to be a cable, your mic is going to be a cable, then like you're
going to have one for your guitar, too. And so I was
wearing these big platform heels. And so then I like I
start to walk back to the microphone after we, I like
organically sing the bridge to them. My guitar knocks by Mike
stand over I tried to go to and then my shoes get caught up in
those three or four wires that are tethered. And so then I have
to make a split decision. I'm like, You know what, I could
recover this, but it's gonna look even worse. So we had a
good run sugar, we're going down. Yeah. platforms, and it
goes glorious. It was such a fun moment.
David: That's fun.
Ainsley Costello: That's my long story about shoes.
David: All right, next question on the list where we go to see.
Leila: Are you sure? How did you decide? How did you decide to
use Bitcoin for your music?
Ainsley Costello: Oh, my gosh, the story is so weird, in crazy.
So my parents for the last couple of years, they've kind of
been like Bitcoin crypto enthusiasts, and we're always
really interested in it. But when they when they will try to
tell me their findings. I'd be like, Yeah, okay, guys,
whatever. Thank you.
Leila: Move on.
Ainsley Costello: But so then it's funny. So who would have
thunk there's this place in Nashville called Bitcoin Park.
And it's actually kind of cool. It's, it's two houses, near
Belmont, which is one of our big universities. And they were
actually the old Florida, Georgia Line houses were in
Florida, Georgia Line, like recorded a couple of their early
records, which is cool. And so they're just renovated now. And
it's just a place for Bitcoiners and crypto people to kind of go
and talk and do their thing. And so in July or so, there was a
lightning summit happening. And my dad, it's funny, the punch
line is that my dad went to went to Bitcoin Park, because his his
day job is he's a mortgage guy, he sells mortgages. So he went
to sell a mortgage to some young rich kid with money to blow and
he got sold on Bitcoin, right? So that's where he met Sam means
who was one of the main guys over at wave Lake, which is the
big kind of new streaming service that operates in this
web three world. And he told Sam, my story, and Sam was like,
well just bring her over leg, see if it's something that she'd
be interested in and just have her come to the demo because
they were having a demo the next morning. And I was like, Sure,
I'll go, I've got nothing else to do other than go to therapy
at 12. So I can go and do this first. And it's funny because I
went to the demo. And I actually had to dip early because I
actually did have to go to therapy. I was like, Sorry,
guys. Great work. Later, gotta go talk about my feelings. But
yeah, so then the next day, my mom and dad and I, we all went
down to the wavelength demo. And we were just like, You know
what? Why not? Let's put my music up there. Let's see what
happens. And then it was honestly wave like, is kind of
the thing that sold me on this, like, oh, this could be a
sustainable ecosystem for music and musicians and songwriters.
And very long story short, I put up my song cherry on top a
couple of weeks later, it becomes the first song on the
platform to hit a million SATs. And then Adam curry picked it up
on his podcast, and then a bunch of other podcasters picked it up
and then flash forward. A few months later, we do the very
first live lightning enabled value for value music shows in
Minneapolis. So it's been a wild couple of months. Yeah,
David: that sounds that we've we've had a much slower
adoption. I listened to Adam curry show. Well, she's listened
to pretty much her whole life. No agenda. And then when he
started talking about podcasting, 2.0 I was like, Hey,
I've got podcasts, let's you know, let me add these tags to
my shows. And then once you excuse me, we started Fun Fact
Friday, right around the same time as podcasting. 2.0 was
picking up and I was like, You know what, I'm gonna like keep
up with podcasting. 2.0 in the rssb, we're gonna we're gonna do
all this stuff, right? And then I was like, Oh, this value for
value things neat. And we were wanting we I think we were the
14th podcast to get value for value.
Unknown: Wow, cool. So
Ainsley Costello: you're really early in the game? Yeah,
David: we got a real early I have to cough. Oh,
Leila: oh, all right.
David: All right. So so then we got a donation. From Dred Scott
to get a node. So we've got our own Node running up and running,
because I was paying, I was paying somebody else to have it
because you know, as I was, who was voltage, we're gonna do
voltage at a whole node do that. All these other options weren't
around at the time. It was either you ran your own or you
went through like voltage or I think Sphinx, I think maybe,
anyway, irrelevant. And then we just kind of slowly over the
course of the everything. Oh, Microsoft Teams has an update.
That's what I was. Sorry. Yeah, not getting hacked. So yeah, and
we've been, you know, just getting, getting our little
boosts and stuff like that. We've had a good time with it. I
love it. When when folks even if it's just like 50 sites, when
they take the time to send a note to us through a way where
we're getting money, you're paying us to send us a note. And
that's awesome. Because it just shows our show gives them value.
So yes, they are show gives them value. That's why we do it as
soon as we stop. If we go a couple of weeks with no kind of
value whatsoever. We're gonna be like, Oh, okay, well, I guess
we've run our course we're done, because nobody finds value in it
anymore. We'll probably still go for a little while because we
have fun doing it. Yeah. And like I said, it's the only time
me and Leila talk is on this episode of these episodes. We
never
Ainsley Costello: talked to each other. Why would you talk to
each other anyways, ya know, right.
David: Now we are not before the scheme's we're not going to hold
you up for two and a half hours. I listened to that. Now,
blueberry knows a level. I was I was behind the scheme's very
first in studio guest. Oh, that's yeah, i He was Blueberry.
Blueberry was close enough to drive to and he had his mobile
rig with him everywhere. And I was like, no, no, this was
before that. Oh, really? Yeah. This is where you were at you
were at your Nana's house. I believe that weekend. Anyway, I
met him it was a little bit of a drive. But I was in studio
guests. We had a good time. But I am going to read the boosts
that we get. We only got one boost this week. Well let me
Okay. Okay. I'll tell you what, we'll get back to value for
value. Continue. Okay. I thought you were done. No,
Ainsley Costello: I love this. You guys remind me so much of me
and my dad.
Leila: So what's your What did you consider your genre of
music.
Ainsley Costello: I consider my genre like it's it's very broad,
but pop rock, I kind of look at my music as if pop Paramore in
the band Camino how to baby and then that baby just like writing
songs about girl power and telling the next generation of
young girls that you don't need to be in a relationship to be a
whole and happy and fulfilled human being. So yeah, that's my
genre. So lyrically, and musically,
Leila: yeah. What's your advice for someone who wants to pursue
music for a career? Ah.
Ainsley Costello: I'm like trying to think about all the
pieces of advice that I've gotten back over the years, I
think. Learn how to write with other people just as well as you
write with yourself. Because it's, you know, like, I think
almost everybody starts out writing songs by themselves in
their bedroom. And that's great. That's a skill that's going to
carry with you for the rest of your career. But if you want to
expand if you want to grow as a creative, you have to work with
other people and bring other people into your process, bring
yourself to their process, and not feeling the hard part for
me. Finding out I really, yeah, yeah. I struggled with it too, a
lot at the beginning when I first moved to Nashville, and I
was starting to write songs with a lot of people. Actually, I'll
tell you this exclusive I don't think I've ever really talks
about. So my very first co write that I had in Nashville, it was
I was, I still feel bad about it. But my first card that I
ever had scheduled was with this really nice guy who I'd met. I
think I met him at the bluebird cafe. Actually, his name was
Ashton. And he was like, hey, like, let's write a song
together. And so I was like, Absolutely, let's do it. But I'd
never written a song with anyone before. Like, I'd only just
written songs by myself in my bedroom. And so the day comes, I
have a nervous breakdown. I have a panic attack, and I'm like, I
have to cancel. I know. And I'm so awful. And so I feel bad
because ash and I've actually never written together. But now
I've written like a million songs with a million different
people. So sorry, Ashton. had to get over that. Right with all
these other people. I'll
David: make sure Ashton hears this episode, I'll personally
find them and
Leila: we'll find every action and we'll send it to them a
million times. Yeah, I
David: do have some friends on the Nashville music scene so so
if I think like two more, okay, I was gonna just comment on the
working with other people. Yeah, it's, it is a huge like, because
my other show me this pod. I was just gonna narrate everything
myself, right? It's, you know, short stories and stuff. And
then I was like, now let me get some other voice actors in here.
And then I started working with people with music for like
score, and I started working people sound fit and like, and
now I'm building a whole cast, like we met these people that
are interested in working on the show with me locally. And I
think that's awesome. Because now we can go do live shows at
local pubs and things like that. And I think working with other
people that are enthusiastic about being creative, in
whatever field, you're being creative in, I think is really
awesome. Like, the sound guy at the theater that we performed a
Christmas carol that turns out, he's he works in radio in like a
neighboring town. And he's trying to get into podcasting
with his radio show. So I'm gonna go work with him. And I've
always found that, and when I've collaborated with other
podcasters, like blueberry, and I've been on Spencer, show and
DeLorean. And it's great working with other people that are in
your field. versus going it alone. That's I've I guess
normally mentally I'm kind of the every man's an island sort
of person. But then I'm finding more and more the whole no man
is an island is more apt in the creative world. Yeah,
absolutely.
Ainsley Costello: I mean, how are you going to expand your way
I just had, what was the word I was going to use? How are you
going to expand your skill set if you don't expand your circle?
And I think that just kind of applies to everything, no matter
what line of work you're in,
David: right? You can't you can't look at everything from
all angles by yourself. Like, yeah,
Ainsley Costello: lots and then I find that like, when you do
collaborate with other people a lot, and then you do come back
and you just write a song by yourself, you do a show by
yourself, you're like, Oh, well, this, this person did this. And
so maybe I can look at it through this lens. Now what
like, you get stronger as a solo writer, if you write with other
people, you know?
Leila: So what was the hardest part of being a musician?
Ainsley Costello: Oh, I would say social media and the
comparison that it brings. I don't like social media like and
I, I've struggled with, like kind of publicly talking about
that because like, we live in a day and age now where you can't
make it it with unless you don't have a social media following or
a presence of any kind. And it's really hard because, you know,
you can do everything. You know, like kind of like a technically
perfect way and but you might not be posting on Tik Tok three
times a day or you see, I don't know like I could this is a
thing that I could talk about for three and a half hours on.
But you know, like, if you do everything technically perfectly
like you use all the right hashtags. You post three times a
day on Tik Tok, and nothing is still working. And then you see
someone with a bad attitude who you came across once who just
post one time on Tik Tok, they go viral they they get and
you're like, what?
David: Yeah, yeah. Like, I feel that with with me this pod not
to not to toot my own horn. But I take a lot of pride and what I
do on that show, I like the audio editing the casting the
and I put out a good show. Right. Most people that have
I've talked to you about actually everybody that I've
talked to about says it's top notch stuff. But there are audio
fiction podcasts out there that have nowhere near the production
value. And you can tell that they're not. They're not putting
everything into it that they could write that it's almost you
can tell that they don't care about it. You know, I mean,
they're just putting it out there. But their social media
game is on point. Yeah. So
Ainsley Costello: that's hard, because like none of us have
every skill set. Like odds are if you're a creative, you're
going to be better at writing a song rather than writing an
Instagram caption. You know,
David: I'm just I'm not a marketing guy.
Ainsley Costello: I'm not either, and like, there's
nothing wrong with that at all. Like, that's why you have to
have a team like nobody can do anything alone. Like, I am the
first person to admit that I have a really great team behind
me who helped me put those two Minneapolis shows together. But
absolutely, I think social media and the comparison that it
brings besides that first exam Pull that I just said a minute
ago like, you get on and you again, I could talk about it.
Yeah. Put
David: a pin in that we'll talk in the after show. I'm working
on something else. Oh, one more question. One more question from
Leila,
Leila: how did you graduate high school at 16?
Ainsley Costello: Oh, man that I very long story short, I was so
done. I was so fed up with it. And so I, the condensed version
of the story is, so my first year of high school, I only went
to, like in person High School, traditional high school for one
year. But the high school that I went to, was very non
traditional. It was kind of an art school. And so the four year
model of that school was you get all of the credits that you
would normally get out of the way in all four years of high
school in two years at that high school so that in the last
junior and senior years, you could focus on being in the
musicals or like going and doing this recording artists thing.
That school didn't work for me for a handful of other reasons.
But it did allow me to get half of my high school credits done
in that one year. And so I was already missing a lot of school.
Because in my, in my freshman year of high school because I
was traveling for gigs, I was traveling for auditions. And I
actually got sent a truancy letter wrongfully, which is a
whole other story. But so after that first year, I was like, You
know what, I am already missing enough school as it is. Let me
just go online. And then that year was COVID. And then I was
like, you know, I've got literally nothing else to do.
Let me just finish high school, right. So I just, I sat in that
very bed, and I did just like, seriously, I'm like, get it
done. Get it done. Get it done. Get me out of here. Because I
was able to graduate so early from high school. It allowed me
to graduate from Berkeley this year to just for
David: our audio listeners, which were only an audio show.
Ainsley turned her camera because we're on a video chat
right now and she has a extremely Luxe and luxurious
bed. Because yeah, it has like Thank you. There's a there's
guys with the palm leafs that fan her and give her the grapes
standing by Yeah,
Ainsley Costello: they all look like Yes.
David: It does have a little fairy lights over it. That's
pretty.
Ainsley Costello: It's it's a winter wonderland in here for
seven.
Leila: So hold on. We got our winter wonderland. All put away
today. Okay, our Christmas, Christmas decorations. And we
said we were surprised mom was it because we were gonna do it
this weekend. Yeah. She walks in and she's like, Oh my gosh, it's
so clean in here. And we start eating dinner. She would say
something about the Christmas Eve being gone. Because I clean.
We regularly. She was like, Oh my gosh, is so clean in here.
Thank you. My
David: wife Phaedra has been dreading putting up the
Christmas decorations. She dreads it every year because
it's such a process. Yeah, ornaments. We're gonna wrap some
of them because they're fragile.
Leila: And we're going out of town with my friends this
weekend. Right?
David: So Oh, cool. Like, we were going to me and her. We're
going to do it this weekend. But I was like, Hey, let's surprise
your mom. Let's take it all down. She'll come home from
work. She'll be like, Oh, Christmas was put away. And
yeah, she sat down. We ate dinner so fast with families
Leila: and kids Great.
David: Totally. Yeah. That's called a throwback. Good job.
Ainsley Costello: You're going with on your trip this weekend.
Leila: I'm going to a convention.
Ainsley Costello: Oh fun times.
David: I know right cosplay convention. I
Leila: was making my love. I know I was talking about in the
pre show. Sorry about all my costumes that I made. Are you
Ainsley Costello: going to the big one in Anaheim? No. in
California?
Leila: No, not all the way back there. No,
David: that's too many money too many money.
Leila: I wish love to go to a big convention.
David: We the one we went to in July Galaxy con pretty big. It
was huge. It had 50,000 attendees.
Leila: It's about as big as Oh, like Momo con. Georgia.
Ainsley Costello: Where was it? Raleigh?
David: Okay. Yeah. Raleigh, North Carolina. Yeah, we're
good. We are going to be heading into Tennessee next actually
this month. Oh, hopefully. We're gonna go to cookout. What? No,
Leila: we're gonna sit down. Right
David: cool. Central Park. Not cookout Central Park. We used to
have Centennial Park. No Central Park. The burger Burger Joint.
It's a drive thru burger place.
Ainsley Costello: We used to live here for four years and I
don't even know. I
David: don't think I don't think it's I don't think it's a
Nashville. I don't think it's a Nashville.
Ainsley Costello: guys coming to Nashville or another place in
Tennessee. Another place?
David: I can't remember. It's right over the border from North
Carolina. Yeah, but there's a restaurant called Central Park
is drive thru only. It's one of those little shack type places.
We used to have one here, but it shut down for various reasons.
And I was my wife and I were talking about when we were
dating, we used to go there a lot because it was super cheap
and we were poor. And we were like, you know, early 20s And we
were like, We want a big, greasy burger. That's where we would go
Cleveland and we missed it so much. And I was like, I wonder
if there's any anywhere nearby. And we found the border. It's
about eight and a half, nine hours from us. Yeah, we're just
gonna make big we're gonna make sure Yep. Big old field trip to
go to Burger but Leila has to experience have
Leila: to apparently you
Ainsley Costello: know, she's kind of have you not had this
magical burger yet?
Leila: I think it was shut down before it was shut
David: down about seven years before you were born. It was
shut down. I think it was shut down before we met your mom and
I got married. So I was 20 years ago. Talking about conventions
I'm hoping to go to the pod fest Expo in Florida. I just got to
see if we've got the funds for it. Bitcoin just it's been going
up so I might just be able to pull a little pull a little bit
of that out. Yeah. coffers maybe. Speaking of Bitcoin, did
you have any more questions? Nope. Okay, let's go to the
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Ainsley Costello: that'll be it forever and ever now. loot.
David: Loot loot. I don't know why that ended up on the
soundboard. But it was
Leila: on our woodwind episode. Yes, we looked up what a flute
was like the definition of flute and I had the little sound bars
next to him. And I was
David: like, what? She thought she was gonna play a sample of
flute. But it was just it was the word flute. Because it was
like the pronunciation guide, I guess. Yeah. So we only have one
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Oh no.
Ainsley Costello: I did that. Leila just looked at me. And was
like,
Leila: like the open mouth emoji.
Ainsley Costello: thing. I was like I found my people talking
about it later. It's what it wouldn't blueberry what we were
doing the the after show for our Minneapolis shows a couple like
last week or so he was saying 1776 from this person from this
person. And I had to fight it so hard the whole time not to go
New York City for real? I
David: have no idea what you're talking about. Later, so your
kids arrive. Wait a minute. Is that from Hamilton? Maybe?
Ainsley Costello: Sorry, I don't have a good poker face.
David: It All right. So from just listening fountain.fm great
podcast player. Myself, my wife and my sister went on Christmas
lights drive and saw radio sync light show for the first time.
Alright, we've talked about that because we've got one down the
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Leila: It's a Wonderful Life. A Wonderful Life apparently,
Ainsley Costello: just my dad forced me to watch it with him
one Christmas, and I'm so sorry. But it was so boring. It was
David: so it's so seen it. It's you're better. You're a better
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Leila: dad who won? Who won?
David: Oh, oh, what? It's the first show of the year? Yeah.
Get ready. So
Leila: on our on our website, me and him we have very split,
like, opinions on which what to call it measuring Weights and
Measures system is better. And I say, metric all the way. Because
it's better objectively. And he says, Yeah, Imperial just to be
different.
David: No, funny not to be different. Yeah, it makes more
sense. Based on the human experience.
Leila: What if you haven't had any human experience?
Ainsley Costello: Wait, so the metric system is the one that
like the UK uses?
Leila: Yeah, everything makes up for us uses the US the
David: stupid one. No, it's not. Is it's so not stupid. It's so
not stupid.
Ainsley Costello: I feel like I've walked into something.
Yeah, this is.
David: This is the thing. This is the thing on the store. We
have two designs. We have team imperial system. Yeah, miles
matter. And we have team metric system beaters matter. Right?
Yeah. And we told all of our listeners a couple months ago,
and we've kind of reminded them periodically through the last
couple months that whichever design sells the most items. Not
the most money, but the most is the most each will be the
official best measuring system of 2024 or 2023. Determined by
Fun Fact Friday, but here here's the kicker. Whichever person's
team loses, has to say out loud on the show that the other
system is better. Oh, so are we ready? Are we ready for the
final numbers? With 10 items winning the best system Imperial
so Leila. No, no.
Leila: Those are outro music sorry. Outro
David: music. So Leila, why don't you tell all of our
listeners, which system which measuring is better is the best?
You gotta say it. We agreed.
Leila: The imperial system is superior to the metric system.
Boom.
David: I'm clipping it. I'm clipping it.
Leila: I do not. I'm Leila and I do not sponsor this message. But
you said it. I did say yes. Forced to say it.
Ainsley Costello: And I do not approve.
David: But yes, five items on the metric system side. So now
we're gonna we're gonna start it over. As of January 1, we have
not had any sales in the shop since you know, New Year's,
Leila: so this will be more fair. And we'll have a full year
we'll have a
David: full year and we're gonna win this time. Also, I'm going
to try and come up with some more designs because I feel like
this has this has legs and we get it out on social media like
a zoo saying I guess social media go and about which which
one's better get a whole whole fight going.
Ainsley Costello: Is it going to be the same competition again?
Imperial versus metric? Yeah,
David: it's gotta be and we're but we got to really play it up
this year. We gotta I gotta get some more designs. I might get a
good little hope. Maybe I'll find some artists that'll help
me come up with some designs. If I can't. I'll see what I can. I
can do. I'm not great. But blood viewed already. It's Oh, it's
Yeah. And it but my the thing I said a couple episodes ago. I
And I've gotten some praise, like had never thought about
like that. There's two kinds of countries in the world. Those
that use the metric system, and those that have put a man on the
moon just saying, just saying that's if you've had people put
them on them but yeah, I think I think we're gonna wrap it up.
Ainsley. Why don't you tell us where folks can find it'll be in
the show notes I'll get, I'll get the links I'll put in there
for you. And you'll be getting a split of any Satoshis that get
donated for this episode. And let us know where we can find
your music or any anything else you want to plug. Well,
Ainsley Costello: yeah, well, first, thanks so much for having
me on the show. I had such a great time hanging out with you
guys. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. You can listen to my music on
any of the podcasting to Dotto apps on wave lake for sure. And
yeah, I mean, just look out for a lot of new music coming in the
new year, I've been writing and writing and writing and doing
lots of in studio stuff the last year and a half. So I'm really
excited for a lot of that music start coming out this year, too.
David: And what I what I like is if like if we wanted to feature
one of your songs on our show, we can have it to where while
your song is playing all of the the support would go straight to
you. It's so cool that like we can awesome yeah, it gets the
whole royalty system out of the way, you know, gets all that
garbage and makes it to where the people who made the thing
get paid. Yeah, unless I decide to put a middleman like Dred
Scott gets a cut of all ever every episode because he does
the chapters into Chandra's is hard work. Yeah, I've done
chapters for a few of our episodes. And it's a I'm sure
once, like drag, he's got a whole system for it. But yeah,
just doing it
Leila: one day, and I stopped. And I forgot to save it. And I
gave up.
David: Oh, and then go back to where she went to do the
chapters one time. And then she was listening to the show on 2x
speed. Just looking for points to put the chapters. Yeah. And
she had all the times wrong.
Leila: was being stupid. And it was like 15 minutes instead of
like 30. So put it it's wrong points.
Ainsley Costello: It wasn't your fault. Leila. It wasn't your
fault. Really?
David: No, don't. Nothing's ever your fault, right?
Leila: Yeah,
Ainsley Costello: you can do no wrong. Oh, my goodness.
David: All right. All right, folks. Yeah, check out check
out. He's like, go watch the erg. I don't know if you can
watch the video on the podcast apps because it was live. I
don't know if their video was recorded for the podcast apps.
But you can definitely go back and listen to the whole concert.
I got mentioned in there. And you know, I got mentioned in the
before the scheme's episode, you went on where you read all the
boosts? Yeah, I would have sent more my wallet was empty. And I
was like, I went to go, Oh, man. Then I didn't, I'm sorry. I'll
boost again. I'll boost again because I was gonna boost more
but I only had so much my wallet. Didn't want to refill it
at the time. So all right, well, I think that's gonna wrap it up.
And we will see y'all next week. We actually have a couple more
guests coming on. We've got Elijah more from CW legacies
coming on. And we have Rena from Better call daddy podcast. And
then we had Oh, who else was going to come on? Oh, that one's
that one's not confirmed yet. So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
mention it. So yeah, everybody have a great weekend. We will
see you next week.
Leila: Bye. Bye. Is Kyle gonna be here? Yeah, I
David: think I think Kyle is here. He feels a little betrayed
because we have a different guest yes, there. Yes. Oh,
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