Leila: The button didn't push down.
David: No, it didn't. That's at the bottom. But the music isn't
Fun Fact Friday. This is not Fun Fact Friday. If you look at the
release date on this episode, it's actually a Saturday. You
know that mean? That means you're that means there's gonna
be sillies speculations,
Leila: and on a Saturday.
David: Leila's disgusting. Silly speculation said,
Leila: Oh my gosh.
David: So Leila is not feeling 100% today as you can tell, but
she's she's in she's in good spirits will say that. She's,
she's been working on her on her cosplay we've been. We're in the
3d printing phase of the cosplay.
Leila: I'm making the prop. And it's like, it looks amazing.
Yeah, by homeless done with it
David: by next week's episode, we should have a really good
picture of it. It's a fork.
Leila: It's a fork. It's a huge fork. That's four feet three
inches tall.
David: Give or take. I don't remember the exact dimensions.
It's huge. But it's for her Miku.
Leila: Okay, and they make you X strawberry 15th anniversary.
Write that up. That's what I'm doing.
David: We'll we'll do a full breakdown on the Yeah, the steps
of everything.
Leila: Should have a full picture of it by the end of
July.
David: Yeah, you should be done. You should be done by actually
you didn't really need to be done. earlier than that.
Leila: To make sure progress pictures and stuff to compile,
right.
David: Work on your book and everything. But that's not what
we're here to talk about. What are we here to talk about?
Leila: JFK,
David: J. K. John F. Kennedy, who's John F. Kennedy.
Leila: Some dude, I think he was the president for a while.
David: Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's what I'm told. I wasn't I
wasn't around. I was so all of this is actually speculation
because we weren't there.
Leila: Not JFK.
David: But we do. We do a silly speculation Saturday, every once
in a while and Leila has been learning about JFK a little bit
in school, and we thought it was a good topic to broach on a
silly speculation Saturday. Here's a little disclaimer. We
these episodes are not quite as family friendly. We're still not
going to cuss or anything like that. But they do typically not
unless you pay me a lot a lot. But yeah, the the deal with a
little little weightier of topics and sometimes they're
not, you know, stuff you want to hear, like, you know,
Leila: really it's gonna deal with assassination.
David: Right so and things that go along with that can be
unsettling for some people. So viewer listener discretion on a
set viewer discretion. Listener discretion is advised. And since
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So yeah, all right now disappear
Leila: for a little while. So Sometimes, it's probably because
I'm just like blowing my nose. Yeah, I'm stuffed out gross. It
is.
David: And, yeah, so So JFK is a very contentious issue. JFK was
born in the 1300s. Uh huh. And he was hundreds and hundreds of
years old by the time he became president. Yeah, everything
president got him. We we know, everything on this episode is
speculation we may or may not believe any particular thing
that we talked about. Yeah. It's nothing else business what we
believe. Yeah, totally. But we may talk about things that we
don't actually believe as we may just to make it more fun.
Leila: And we may even talk, we've never
David: we may even talk about things we deliberately don't
believe. What were you gonna
Leila: say? We may even believe stuff we don't talk about on
here. Yeah,
David: we may have we have may have some beliefs about things
we talk about on silly speculation Saturday,
Leila: like my going theory is he didn't get assassinated. He
just did that. He just somebody just did that.
David: And he was just like, I'm tired being president. Yeah.
Lyndon Maji. Why don't you just take it over? I'm out of here.
Let's do some performative. And I'm gonna go I'm gonna go to the
beach. I'm gonna go to some island. Yeah,
Leila: he's chillin and like,
David: San Francisco. Probably not anymore. And he would be
like,
Leila: oh, yeah, he'd be he'd be. Yeah,
David: cuz it was 60 years ago. He's already 30 Okay, so JFK was
the president. And then on November 23 22nd 2011 22, June
22. Is the 22nd 22nd. Okay. Yeah, cuz that book of 1963. He
was in Dallas, Texas, not different. Dallas, Dallas,
Texas. And he was in the backseat of a open limousine
with chillin with the missus and some other folks in the car.
We'll talk about a little later. And yeah, he got he was chillin.
He got he got shot. Yeah, he was he was waving. He was and he got
shot multiple times. Twice. Yeah, that's multiple. It's more
more than one is multiple precise. We're talking about
stuff. But okay, that's fine. No, I like when you correct me.
I like when you say things like that. But yes, shot two times.
And the governor, what was the governor's name? Oh, I
Leila: knew it. Hold on. I should have had this pulled up.
Yeah, Dad, you should have had it pulled up really should have
pulled up.
David: You gotta look. Okay. So, anyway, I know. I've heard I've
heard it like 100 times last two days, because I've been because
I've been
Leila: when J
David: ffice. Were professional podcasters. Folks,
Leila: and of course, it's gonna take me forever to search up.
Okay. Governor, knowing he was the governor listed governor,
John Connally. Yes. Thank
David: you. Yay, Connolly Connolly. So, Kennedy was
sitting in the backseat with the with the Mrs. And Connelly was
sitting directly in front of the President. So the one of the
bullets went through the president and into Connolly
through Connolly and to Connelly's wrist and then out of
Conway so there's bullet hit strong bullet multiple people
and caused all kinds of all kinds of damage. Yeah, well,
real rifle rifle rounds are typically pretty, do a lot of
damage, especially that caliber. And this this bullet, they call
it the magic bullet. Because they've done the one bullet
theory. Yes, there's the one bullet theory. And basically, if
you look in the show notes of this episode, we actually have a
video that proves that the one bullet theory is absolutely
true. They used 3d mapping software software and they went
and did laser map 3d maps of the area. And they took all of the
telemetry into into effect in them, trajectory of everything.
And they proved without, without a doubt 100% That one bullet
went through Kennedy into Connolly out of Connolly into
Connelly's wrist and it's no good one now, the house also
have another video in the show notes of this episode, that
what's wrong? Does. They use 3d 3d mapping, laser laser
telemetry, and they just need rapid trajectories of the
bullets and they took everything into into a count and prove
without a doubt 100% that the one bullet theory is incorrect.
So take that for what you will. However, the one that shows that
it's incorrect is a newer, a newer study. And the the one
that says that the one bullet theory official, official
narrative is correct does come from CNN.
Leila: CNN is always true. Yes, CNN news sources are always true
all the time. 100%
David: is accurate and never has any bias or nothing. Fake stuff.
Yes, silly speculation Saturday.
Leila: Don't take anything we say for truth, there's the one
bullet.
David: Good, what the one bullet bullet thing has always been a
point of contention around and saying that, that one bullet
couldn't have done it. Now the official narrative says that
three shots were fired.
Leila: And the second first one to hit, the first
David: one missed, just gonna hit the ground somewhere. And
then the second bullet was the one that I was just talking
about the magic bullet. And then the third bullet, killed him,
got him got him in the head. And they say that Lee Harvey Oswald
file fired all three of these rounds from the sixth story of a
book depository that he worked in.
Leila: Although, from what I've heard, he used to be a Marine.
And he wasn't that good of a shot.
David: Okay, so having some experience with some firearms,
those kinds of rifles at that distance, you don't have to be a
great shot. Like you don't have to be a marksman. Excellent
marksman now
Leila: hitting him two out of the three or two out of three
times that That being said,
David: That's the official narrative. Yeah. Is that he did
it. Three shots, rapid succession with an inaccurate
gun. And people will argue about that. But a not good shot, using
an inaccurate firearm from big distance. Not that. Okay, it's
not that huge of a distance when you have a scope rifle.
Leila: Okay. Yeah, that's true.
David: And when, when Oswald was in the Marines, that doesn't
mean that that was like the height of his being good at a
marksman because he might have gotten out of the Marines and
then went and practiced a bunch. So you don't know. You know, we
don't know if he got better as a marksman. But the official
narrative and I keep saying official narrative, I'm going to
come back to why I'm saying official narrative so much. The
official narrative is that he did all three shots, tried to
get away, got caught. And then a couple days later, got shot by a
nightclub owner, John, Jack, Ruby, Jack Ruby. And then Jack
Ruby got killed. So there's also a list of witnesses. That
Windows What are you doing? The keep adding stuff to Windows
without telling I'm moving to Linux?
Leila: We're using Linux, I
David: was using Linux, but I don't have all my bookmarks and
stuff moved over yet. And we needed to record. I know, once I
gotta move over, I'll move to Linux. Oh, my gosh,
Leila: I realized that I'm not using a wired mouse and I can
just put on my lap. I'm so good at this guys. Because I use I
use a wired mouse at my desk inside
David: because wired mouse are far superior to wireless
salutely. But
Leila: I like just holding it my lap. Right? It's awesome.
David: Okay, so the and then the the he, okay, so Kennedy died.
Lyndon Johnson, who was vice president was immediately sworn
in, bless you. Thank you. And we and boom, we had a new
president. You know, it all happened very quickly. Lee
Harvey Oswald never stood trial, obviously, because he was killed
a couple of days. Now, when I say the official narrative, and
I keep harping on that is because there are different
theories. There's lots of different theories, things have
come out. But the whole point of why I'm saying it the way I'm
saying it, is that when Oswald was shot, certain people who had
interest in certain national security issues, military
issues, things like that, started pushing, they were like,
Okay, let's all get on the same page on what happened, because
there will not be a trial. And we won't have anybody to say
that, you know, there won't be any discovery. Oswald won't be
able to say whether he had accomplices so we we have
control of the narrative, and we can put out anything we want to
the news agencies. To shape this story the way we want to shape
it and the way we need to shape it. Not saying that everybody
who was involved was a bad actor or trying to lie or anything
like that, but I'm sure there were a few. As it, there's
always going to be some bad apples and some people with
interests that they want to keep protected.
Leila: So that's how the world works.
David: That's how the world works. And some of it might have
been for national security reasons, you know, some of the
ways that they told the story and put the story out and kept
the narrative going one direction might have actually
been good. Even if there were lies, because sometimes, you
know, if there's there's nuclear war on the horizon, because at
that time, we were kind of in the Cold War and, and, you know,
relations weren't great with some of the world powers. You
can do a whole whole episode about that. But yeah, Oswald was
excellent. Fall Guy. I whether he did or did not do it. A foul
guys like a patsy. Patsy is. Okay. These are a Patsy's an old
term for somebody who's taking the fall for somebody else.
Okay, yeah. So like when the mob boss does something really bad.
He has one of his goons be the Patsy. And he basically the goon
goes to prison. Yeah, somebody to blame it on. Like escape, go,
yes. Escape code is another good term for that. But yeah, all as
well even said, they like they actually let him talk to the
press. And he said, You know, I'm the Patsy. I'm there.
They're printing this whole thing on me. I didn't do it,
which is exactly what somebody who did it would say, however,
it wasn't me, you guys should have framed them.
Leila: And it's obvious what someone would say if they didn't
do it. Exactly. And
David: that's the whole. That's the thing is that didn't there
that he didn't get a chance to defend himself in court. He
didn't get a chance to say,
Leila: I didn't do it, or I did do it. Right.
David: Or I did it. But I also these people helped me, you
know, and that was that was one of the big things that that came
out of the official narrative was that he acted alone. Yeah.
Leila: That was he was the only one that plan this out. And
this, he was it was his plan. Right. It
David: was his plan. There's not some huge conspiracy to do this.
Let's not
Leila: compare it to the Abraham Lincoln assassination. There was
a whole group that was kind of planning it around it. And
David: I will tell you, I actually have very little
knowledge of the Lincoln assessment actually,
Leila: I think, I don't know where my knowledge on the
Lincoln assassination. I do. JFK,
Unknown: what are we doing, Lincoln?
Leila: I don't know. We can do both. Sure. All right. Right
now, I'm fine. Some shuffling
David: Lincoln. That guy's on the pin. No, no. John
Leila: Wilkes Booth. He, I think he had a whole group around him
have like, three other guys are somewhat. I'm gonna look at it
before I'm saying anything else cuz I don't wanna get the facts
wrong. But him and some of his buddies, partners in crime went
in had a plan of killing a Lincoln, like the senator, the
governor, stuff like that. Oh, so they had a whole plan. And a
whole hit list. Yeah. And they had a supplier for the guy and
people that helped stay at their house. So he could do all this.
So
David: that's the whole thing. So it was an actual conspiracy,
not just a theory. Yeah. I'm assuming this has been proven.
Yeah, at least do records because you can't really prove
something.
Leila: Because John Wilkes Booth didn't die right after. So we
had a whole bunch of stuff put on him. He broke his leg after.
Yeah, I
David: remember hearing I remember that. Yeah, he was
running away and running away.
Leila: It fell off and fell off and he had to get but yeah, no
exceptions about about that. What you're talking about this?
Okay, you can do the JFK assassination. And I could do
the Abraham Lincoln. Yeah,
David: yeah. Yeah, you could
Leila: plan the show on the show. That's
David: how we do it, because we're professional podcasters.
So the the official, the official narrative was
definitely planned. Like there are phone calls between Lyndon
Johnson and other people talking about we need to get a we need
to make sure that the the the what why can't I speak that we
that we have that we can we control the narrative. And we
need to make sure that a bunch of people don't start putting,
putting ideas out there, putting out conspiracy theories about
what's going on and start talking about it. So we need to
go ahead and release enough information to satisfy people
that this is this is what happened. And we need to
suppress anything else that comes out. And people weren't
happy about that. People weren't happy about that at all. And
there's been investigation since then. And there's been a ton of
Records released since then. In the shownotes, there's a video
called why people think the government killed JFK. And the
YouTuber who did it he's got like 5 million followers. He
doesn't really good work. And in the shownotes of his episode,
there's, he provides all of his sources. So he actually does a
good job on that. I think Leila is about to sneeze again. No,
Leila: I'm gonna get I'm gonna be Yeah.
David: But yeah, Lincoln and Kennedy actually had a lot of
like conspiracy theories. Yeah.
Leila: So, the backstory. Okay, go ahead, Lincoln. Oh, if I can
speak. So on April 14 1865, Abraham Lincoln, the 16th,
President United States was assassinated by John Wilkes
Booth Walton, the the play Our American Cousin at Ford's
Theater. And he was shot in the back of the hood as he watched
the play. He died the next day because of his wounds. That's
pretty much all you need to know about what actually happened and
then try to summarize this. I'm not trying to like read it
verbatim. I am sick. So obviously, the whole Civil War
thing is the Southwest seceding from the United States. Yeah.
Because I have ordered a whole bunch of stuff. And they didn't
like Lincoln, of course, because he was because it was President.
He was from Pat inches. Yeah. And there were Lewis Powell,
David, Harold, George at Surat, and John Wilkes Booth, and Mary
Surrett. All in a group that were planning this whole
assassination and stuff before this happened. And Lewis Powell
and David Harrell were assigned to kill the Secretary of State
William H. Stewart. And George adds, Rod was tasked with
killing the Vice President Andrew Johnson. This all failed,
of course, because they didn't die. But Seward was wounded. I
don't know how that happened. And Johnson's attacker became
drunk instead of killing the West president. Because
apparently
David: I'm gonna go do this, I'm gonna go to this thing we've
been playing in. That's real bad. But you know what? I'm
gonna go have a few drinks beforehand. Yeah.
Leila: And in this paragraph, it doesn't even say what Mary's
read does, but I thankfully know. Right, Harry Surat, she
had a house that all of these people were staying in or a
place for them to. To scheme. Right. And yeah, the really only
one that worked out was John Wilkes Booth killing Abraham.
They were rock, Powell, Harold and Atzeret. And Mary, were all
killed later for their roles in the conspiracy. Yeah, and this
is, from what I know, the true fact. Okay, because this is a
while while back?
David: Yeah, yeah, um, you know, everything. Everything
Leila: is just like it has less theory surrounding it, because
it looks more like more truth, right,
David: like stuff that they found. And you can probably find
sources for final letters and things written at the time.
That's always that's always what I try and look for, when I go
into any kind of thing like this, as I try and look for
sources that were actually written at the time by the
people who are there experiencing it. Now, that
doesn't make these things true. And
Leila: booth even had like a diary, where he was like, what
next? What chance I had if I wish to kill the president, the
Inauguration Day, right, like, yeah, so it's a whole bunch of
stuff pointing to him.
David: And to be fair, somebody else could have written that and
said it was his Yeah. So you always have
Leila: to wrote it in like, a whole bunch people also wrote
it. And he was just the one that happened to be blamed for it.
David: I just killed a scooter. Oh, no, it was a tiny little
scooter. So coincidences involving President Lincoln and
President Kennedy.
Leila: Oh, yeah. We just did a whole segment on this in history
class did a neat,
David: yeah. Okay. So both presidents were elected and
presidency in 1990, or whatever century they were in 60. So, in
60, both presidents were elected to the House of Representatives
in the year 46 of their century, both presidents were runner ups
for their party's nomination for vice president and 56. Of their
Leila: and actually, I think that they were both elected to
Congress in 6318 6319 63. That
David: wouldn't be You can't know, not to Congress. Well, I'm
63. Let me let me run through and then we'll talk about that.
Okay. Both successors, both successors with Southern
Democrats named Johnson who were born in oh eight of their
centuries. Both presidents were concerned with the problems of
American blacks and made their views strongly known in the year
of 63 of their centuries. Lincoln signed the Emancipation
Proclamation in 1862, which became law in 63. And in 1963,
Kennedy presented his report courts to Congress on civil
rights in the same year was the famous March on Washington for
Jobs and Freedom. Both presidents were shot in the head
both presidents were shot from behind. Both presidents were
shot in the presence of their wives. Both presidents were shot
on a Friday. Both presidents were accompanied by another
couple. The male companion of the other couple was wounded by
the assassination. Trunk sorry. Yeah, because if they were
already
Leila: 63 That was right, the same. Lincoln
David: was shot at Ford's Theater, Kennedy was shot and
Lincoln automobile made by Ford. Lincoln was Lincoln had a
secretary named Kennedy, who told him not to go to the
theater. Kennedy had a secretary named Evelyn Lincoln, who was
born 100 years after Lincoln, whose husband was Harold, whose
husband Harold's nickname was a boy who warned him not to go to
Dallas. Both Oswald and booth were killed before they can be
put on trial. Lincoln and Kennedy each have seven letters.
Lincoln and Kennedy both have five syllables and their full
name, which counts Kennedy's middle initial shooting. John
Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald each have 15 letters in
three words. There are six letters in each Johnson's first
name, and booth ran from the theater to a warehouse Oswald
ran from a warehouse to a theater. So there you go.
Leila: There you go.
David: I wonder. I mean, that's a lot. That's a lot.
Everything's a lot. But like, you wonder how many like hi, big
event profile event, things that happen in the world? That was a
bad sentence. How many of them if you scrutinize every aspect
and every detail of of any two events, many comments, you'll
find that many coincidences everything. Right? So, you know,
or, or, or in ninth and 2063? Whoever the President is, is
going to have seven letters. And they're gonna have something to
do with Ford. And it's actually gonna be me. You're gonna be
president. Yeah. seven letters.
Leila: I can make seven letters. What do you write? What? I write
seven letters? I'll write seven letters. Seven
David: letter, I don't understand. Is it a reference to
something that Oh, I know what you have to speak.
Leila: I'm not seven letters in my name. I'm gonna write seven
letters.
David: Oh, each have seven letters. Like, oh, you could get
some of those magnet letters that you put on the fridge. I
can make it like,
Leila: I really want to become president 6063. Now, well, I can
I can get assassinated and start a whole bunch of other
conspiracies.
David: Well, that's a lame way to do it. Why you can just start
conspiracy theories. That's what the shows about Saturday,
Leila: what if John F. Kennedy planned it?
David: If he was if he was the mastermind behind his own,
quote, unquote, assassination? Yeah.
Leila: Because what if he wanted all this to happen? And he
wanted it to be compared to Abraham Lincoln? Well,
David: that wouldn't be the first time I mean, in fiction
that happens a lot. Where somebody plans their own death
in order to start a series of events. Yeah, that will
culminate in whatever they want their their outcome to be. He's
Leila: just big old jokester. Do you want this all to happen?
David: Maybe he has, like friends that are aliens that
took them off world after this whole thing happened. Now
talking about that aliens have been speculated by nice to be
involved in the JFK assassination, because he was
all about some space, you know, wanting to get space and
everything. And the aliens were like, Nah, we don't need you
find in our moon bases. And took them out. That's always you
know, one of the things huge events like this that quote
unquote, everybody's going to remember who who was alive.
While it happened. Always end up with so many like, whatever your
pet conspiracy is, you can loop in to the JFK assassination. So
like, if you if you think it's a lizard people that control the
world, and they didn't like it, because he was about to expose
the lizard people. Boom, you can you can say the lizard people
got Oswald to do it. Or somebody else did it. And Oswald was the
Batsi. You can you can take any conspiracy theory and put it in
there. And then when the government does try to do cover
ups like they did in this situation, it's not even like
they allegedly did, they did do cover ups and suppressed
information and destroyed evidence and documents from the
time it's all admitted to and and documented that they
destroyed the documents. So when you don't, when you have the
government acting like that, after a huge event, you're
obviously going to spark off a ton. A ton of conspiracy
theories. Because obviously it is a conspiracy if somebody did
If any two people make a plan to do something out of the
ordinary, then it's a conspiracy. Then as like time
goes on, you you have people start to come out, like they're
getting old. And they do like their deathbed confession, or
they're like, You know what, it's been long enough. Anybody
that I'm going to make really mad by saying this stuff is
either gone, or they don't care anymore. So you actually have
people writing books, there was recently, a secret service agent
that was there that day, wrote a book about the whole situation.
And he puts it out there. So like, as time goes on, more and
more information is coming out. Back in 2017. The National
Archives released tons and tons and tons of stuff, and they're
still releasing stuff. You can actually go to archive.gov.
Whereas archive got slash research slash JFK. And there
are, yeah, they have tons and tons and tons of documents, all
the documents, millions of documents. Maybe not millions, I
don't know, a lot of documents about the the assassination of
JFK. And still, still, there are certain government agencies that
are keeping stuff redacted. And what that tells me is that it's
possible that some of the people involved in or named in those
documents are still in power somewhere. And they're doing
them a favor, or they show really, really bad actions by
certain agencies. And they don't want those documents coming out.
And I'm like, they're, they're there, and you've been ordered
to release them. And then they also redact things. Which is
kind of super annoying. Yeah. Because they'll just have like a
whole page. That's just you know, redacted, redacted,
redacted, you just literally can't read anything on it. And
it can't all be like the word the will be the only thing
visible on the whole page. Like, oh, when are that lumens? So
yeah, it. It's super annoying when there's something that is
61 years old now, coming up on 61 years, and we still don't
have the whole story. And they have the documents like they're
there. And they've been told that they're supposed to release
them, and then not release them. So you know, yep. So what else
did you have about? Did you want to go a little more than the
Lincoln assassination or who?
Leila: So it's not much of that to say, okay, so
David: then we talked about the the alien stuff. So I found on
Popular Mechanics, that one of the newly released documents
revealed the name of the CIA official who intercepted
Oswald's mail. And the month before JFK is killing so the CIA
had Oswald on the on the, you know, under scrutiny. The guy's
name was Reuben, F. Ron, and F. Ron had a UFO encounter
encounter in 1955. Now, we're going Zach Rubin. A UFO
encounter in 1955 when he was on a train, going through the
Soviet Union with Senator Richard Russell of Georgia. He
was an Army colonel who was a Democrat. Senator, they saw what
the CIA reported as to flying saucers. So, what what I'm
thinking is either these UFO was landed on the train, because
they can do that because, you know, I got, ya know, they can
do that. And then they they talked to this to this CIA guy,
and they were like, hey, yeah, look, here's what's gonna
happen. We need to take care of this this Kennedy guy, because
he's, he's gonna tell everybody about lizard people.
Well, yes, nice. No, no, no, no. So Soviet, okay, it was. Okay,
if you had me all started. I was gonna turn your mic down. All
right. I got my Russell Russell. The guy, the guy who's the
senator, was among the Warren Commission members who
interviewed Marina Oswald. Lee Harvey Oswald's wife in 1964.
Marina was the one that saw the UFO and Soviet Union. Question
is what was he doing in the Soviet Union? Because the Soviet
Union is involved in this whole thing. the Warren Commission is
the the Cuba the ones Yes. Well, okay, so, the Cold War, you
should look up, look up the Cold War and See how it all went
down? Basically Cuba had missiles. Yeah, from Russia,
right. They had missiles from Russia, because they're so close
to America that they could launch the missiles. And they
would get here before we had time to react. Yeah. So that was
a, that was a big thing during the time. And Oswald lived in
Russia for a while, got bored of it, and then came back. So that
was probably why he was on the CIA's radar is that he had been
there lived there for a while. And Russia was like, what were
you doing in Russia? Why'd you go live in Russia? You know,
that sort of thing. So he was if he didn't do it, he wasn't like
the the perfect fall guy for the whole vols situation. Yeah. So
do you think the Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone? Just he was
just like, You know what I'm gonna do? Or do you think that
that because I've heard, I've heard theories that the CIA was
pretty much just, they didn't like Kennedy has a lot of
reasons because of well do. Do you know, any of the reasons?
Leila: He tried to define them a little bit by like, 20%. Yeah,
David: I mean, that's, you know, one in five people fired fired.
Leila: That one dude. Well, what was his name? What was the name?
Hello, I
David: don't know. You. You dug deep into the CIA? Did it? I
did. Because I think didn't something get released in like
2020 2021. That said that the CIA was told me that. Yeah, I'm
trying to remember when it was released. That was what I was
trying to look for. And I'll find it real quick. So one of
the things was the the Bay of Pigs Bay of Pigs was like, a
loose.
Leila: Yeah, he didn't want to provide air support for it.
Right. But
David: yeah, so they sent in some people to start a guerrilla
war campaign and rally the people of Cuba against Castro.
So it didn't, it didn't work out well, because apparently, the
people of Cuba kind of liked Castro. So and Cuba, was in
league with Russia, kind of going off
Leila: of, like communist. Right? Yeah, it was at the
David: time. Yeah. Cuz Castro was all about being a commie.
John Kenny was all about not Yeah. He was like, those commies
out of Cuba. And they thought, yeah, they thought that they
would go in with a small, relatively small thing was like
1500, or something like that. People, and they would basically
start a revolution to bring democracy to the people. And the
people were like, Yeah, we don't want democracy. Because this guy
is feeding us, kind of what it comes down to, and a lot of a
lot of poor countries. And of course, they had Russia, with
the missiles. So anyway, the Bay of Pigs didn't go well. Yeah.
And Kennedy didn't want to escalate things by sending in
air support, that would have helped those 1500. People say, I
didn't like that the CIA didn't like that, because it was CIA
people down there. So
Leila: he also fired the director of the CIA director
Alan duels. Yeah.
David: Who was on the Warren Commission. Yeah. Like they put
him in charge of investigating the guy who fired him for
investigating the assassination of that guy who fired him. And
yeah, so.
Leila: Yeah. And he also plan to cut the agency's budget by 20%.
David: Yeah, yeah. And then I'll tell you what one thing
government agencies don't like is when you cut their budget,
yeah, they love that budget. I know from experience, one of the
ways that the government stuff works is it works in business
like this, a lot of times too, is like when they're getting the
budget ready for next year, right? They'll call up an agency
or even like a department, and they'll be like, Hey, Joe, how
much money just been this year? And Joe's like, $100,000, which,
that's a very low number, but we spent $100,000. So we're gonna
need and they're like, Okay, so typically, we go up about 3% a
year. So we're going to we're going to make your budget
$103,000 This year, but that's not really how it works. What
happens is like, Joe, budget times coming up, and they've
only spent $35,000, right, because that's all they've
needed, right? They've bought their paper clips and their
computer chairs and their you know, coffee for the break room.
Who is Joe Joe's? This the guy and head of department. This
theoretical department, you missed out so yeah, so Joe's
like, oh, man, I missed a Joe mamo. So So Joe's like, yeah, we
only spent $35,000. This year, we saved a whole bunch of money
for the taxpayer. And the person who's Coming up the budgets like
Oh, so you're only gonna get 3% More than 35,000 Next year,
because obviously you can operate on 35,000. So what
happens in reality is Joe's coming up on budget time, and
he's like, we've only spent $35,000. This year, we were
supposed to earn $100,000. Or we're not going to get that
extra 3000 Next year, that's an extra 3%. So we need to spend
$65,000 right now. Yeah. And I have seen departments in
government agencies that I've worked alongside, I have seen
them purchase hundreds of computer chairs, to make sure
that they used up their entire budget for the year for a
department head like 12 people. So they just had a back room in
their building full of $250 computer chairs. Because they
had to spend their budget or they wouldn't get as much next
year. And I'm like, wow, that's fraud, waste, and abuse, in my
opinion. You know, I don't like this system, but that's how the
system works. So when you cut the budget of a government
agency, it makes a whole lot of government agency people upset.
So they're talking about the CIA being involved in the
assassination. There was released on cia.gov in the
reading room, there is a mafia and CIA linked in JFK, JFK
murder document. And it looks like it came from the National
examiner. And they've got it. They've got it here. It looks
like they use optical character recognition. They didn't
actually copy and paste anything they probably should have.
Because this is hard to read. I'm going to do my best. Just
documents said did it off mafia and CIA conspired in the
assassination of John F. Kennedy in 1963. And did the ill fated
President seal his own doom with the decisions he had made
several months before new evidence now appears to support
the credibility of this astounding theory concerning JFK
is murder and Dallas, members of America's top secret spy or as
an organization. Some of these words aren't words they have
letters and numbers or numbers and stuff in them because of
this bad scan. Members of America's top secret spy
organization and known unknown triggerman for the mafia
reportedly observed on the scene when the fatal shooting took
place. Several CIA agents and at least one member of the mafia
were allegedly taken into custody shortly after the
shooting ceased, but were quickly released by Dallas
police particular spot where JFK was brutally cut down. This is
badly run particular spot when JFK was brutally cut down. My
brain isn't like this. It's written very weird. Few experts
believe that Lee Harvey Oswald could have fired all the shots
which poured into the President's open convertible.
They've kind of skipping around a little bit is never been
ascertained. Just why they happen to be at that at the
popular I don't know. The popular theory now is that
Oswald himself was eliminated to keep these lips sealed, which is
kind of what I was alluding to earlier. His killer Jack Ruby
was known to have close associates among the underworld
figures. Witnesses claim photographs prove that former
CIA agents ie Howard Hunt, convicted water Gator and Frank
Sturgis were president when JFK was slain, also identified in a
photo of those nearby the Presidential motorcade was
parolee with a criminal record as long as your arm approved for
a approved for approved Eugene Hale branding, with a recording
dating back to 1934 was allegedly associated with James
the weasel fruit tiano. Now that's a name. Yeah, James the
weasel frog piano. A well known mafia figure made me the weasel.
Well, I mean, the Weasel is probably a nickname so you could
kinda but you can't give yourself a nickname Leila.
That's the lamest. The lamest thing is to give yourself hey
guys from Milan, call me the CO Brooks. Okay, so the weasel was
a well known mafia leading figure in the gangland killings,
who was then one of the small bones family of Denver 1963
braiding was living in Los Angeles on parole. He claimed to
be an oil prospector and obtained permission from his
parole officer to visit Dallas on a business trip. He was
scheduled to be in Dallas only for the day of the 21st
According to records. He was supposed to be in Houston on
November 22. The day if k was shot, why did he stay in Dallas?
That's the question. I'm skipping around a little bit.
The Commission did not connect Ruby visit with Brad for release
a Yelp Q five to visit had given a phony name. So bad.
Leila: I'm bad at reading it questions. I have a whole story
I need to tell after this. Okay.
David: Okay, well, okay, so anyway, this story, which is on
cia.gov, in the reading room, basically says the CIA and these
mafia people were all there and probably shouldn't have been
like, yeah, there's no reason for them to have been there. And
it the question, the end end of the article says the question
was whether or not it would accomplish that, which was,
which is wanted to wanted to do. Okay, so yeah, I'll put a link
to that in the show notes. So you can read it for yourself.
But that's bad. It's badly written. But you do what you do.
Yeah. So
Leila: I want to talk about the other people involved in the
what's it called? Abraham fascination. So like Powell at
Ziraat. So we're gonna start off with Powell. He was the one that
was supposed to attack. Secretary of State, William H.
Howard, or Seward. Sorry.
David: So those were right to the Lincoln thing. Yeah. Rex and
Lincoln jumping back to Lincoln. We're going back in time, back
Leila: in time, about 100 years. So on the night of the
assassination, Seward was home on Lafayette Square confined to
a bed and recovering from injuries sustained on April 5
for being sofas carriage. Harold guided Powell to Seward's house
howl carried a Whitney revolver and a bowie knife. Like a good
boy enough, yeah. He eventually made it into the house pushing
past Fred or Fanny, which is William's wife. Phil after that,
and he was fairly I know. He knocks out his son Frederick,
unconscious. Secretaries, Assistant. Yeah, Seward son says
Assistant Secretary of State Frederick W. Stewart. He was
knocked out by the revolver it. He was supposed to get shot by
it, put it up to his forehead and it misfired. So we just
ended up bludgeoning him with it. He eventually made it up to
Seward and attempted to stab at sewers face and neck. He sliced
his cheek open, but the splint that he had on his neck, it was
Fidan he had a broken jaw outside, oh is fitted to his jaw
in prevented the blade from penetrating his jugular vein.
Wow, I know. Isn't that cool? That's crazy. And he eventually
recovered, but he had a whole bunch of serious scars on his
face. And then I'm just gonna read the last paragraph because
it has a lot of information,
David: but there were cool scars I bear with the chicks dug them.
Chicks dig scars.
Leila: Augustus and Sergeant George F. Robinson, a soldier
assigned to Seward were alerted by fanning screams and received
stab wounds in struggling Powell. As Augustus went for the
pistol Powell ran downstairs to the door where he encountered
Emmerich Hansel a State Department messenger How will
stabbed Hansel in the back then ran outside exclaiming, I'm mad
I'm mad. screams from the house had frightened Harold who ran
off leaving Powell to find his own way in unfamiliar city.
Isn't that crazy? Yeah. And then ads right? Going like I drunk.
David: Old drunky MC adds a rod Yeah.
Leila: Boosted assigned him to kill the Vice President Andrew
Johnson. Andrew Johnson was state staying in the Kirkwood
house at this point, which is just a like hotel. Okay, pretty
much and George adds rot decided to just get the room above
Andrew Johnson. And he had a whole time that he was gonna go
kill them and everything. But he ended up going down to the bar
and getting very drunk and talked to the bartender about
his plan. But he didn't say anything super bad. He didn't
say he was gonna like, kill him or anything. But he did talk
very suspiciously about the vice president. Yeah, so he was he
was like a in this Wikipedia page but I do know that the
bartender ended up calling authorities on him because I've
read a lot of stuff on this
David: so booth so they went he went into the bar and he was
like he was like so so allegedly in Minecraft. And in Roblox I
don't like the president in Roblox why so when you're when
you're talking about something and you have to make sure that
people don't think you're serious? You have to say, Oh,
yeah. Like, I'm gonna burn down this house and Minecraft, you
know? You can't just gotta say allegedly before Are everything
Leila: Yeah, but he eventually got very drunk and wandered out
into the streets tossing his knife away at some point and
made his way out of the Pennsylvania House Hotel by 2am.
We obtained a room and went to sleep. He didn't say this, but
he did have a gun and a knife on him. No
David: went up to the bar. So yeah, yeah, I guess he just so
Leila: he had plans, but he just didn't do it. Right, you got to
chickened out and just went out drunk.
David: So I looked up, I looked up the suit, the guy with the
scars, the Seward. And not great pictures, obviously, because
it's back. And way back when? Early 1200 BC. So I looked up
and scars wouldn't help this dude. Said chicks dig scars.
Yeah. This guy is no, not a not a handsome fellow. Oh, wow. See?
Yeah, the Lincoln assassination was like I've said, Oh, I think
you know, a whole lot more than I do about it, which is really
Leila: interested in it, right? Because we what we did in class
is we did an assignment on all of the perpetrators for Lincoln,
a perpetrator or the the theories around, John Wright had
to come to our own conclusion, and what you think is the most
reasonable for both of them, and then we had to look at the what
do you call them? Court know, the things that like overlap.
coincidences. Yeah. Coincidental between both synchronicities
David: you could say that word. You know? What was this?
Synergy? That's the one I hate. Oh, yeah, we need to synergize
with the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. Yes. And it's
synergy. The concept I understand. Yeah. I just don't
like that, like so many business people. Um, yeah, we need to
think out the box and synergize. And they just had it's one of
the buzz words that they use. And it's super annoying.
Leila: Just say work as a happy family. You can say it
David: got hijacked by people doing pet charging 500 Dogs
dollars for how to make more money in your business speech is
what bothers me. The online courses. Yeah, yeah. It's like,
oh, $97 to talk to for an hour. And then you buy my book, which
is $400. But yeah, so we're not I don't I genuinely don't think
we're ever going to have the whole story on JFK. Nope. I
think that there was a lot of people who had a grudge against
the man. And I think that a lot of powerful people colluded to
take out somebody who was a thorn in their side. Yeah.
That's just my, my, my two cents on it. And I may or may not
actually believe that. Oh, I don't know. Who knows. It's
speculation, silly speculation Saturday. You're so good at
this, but it does. I do believe time travelers were involved.
Leila: Yeah, I actually believe that there was a wizard. I was a
wizard is a wizard. My opinion. Yeah.
David: There's been a lot of fiction about time travelers
going back to that event. There was Stephen King wrote a book,
it was actually more about dancing. Then it was about the
assassination. But a time traveller went back, it was
called 1122 63. And it was pretty good book, you can kind
of skim over the dancing parts. Yeah, but they made a movie
about it, too. But um, he basically this guy can go back
in time, to a set point in the past. And then he come back to
his time to see the result of anything changes. But every time
he goes back in time, it resets to the original timeline. So
like, let's say, I think he has to go back like five years
before the assassination. Like so like, he goes back to that
time, lives for five years, in that time, tries to stop the
assassination fails, goes back to the portal where he can come
back to our time. And then if he goes back through the portal,
he's back five years before the assassination again, so he has
to wait five more years for the assassination. So he has to keep
keep trying different things. And but he's progressively
getting older as he does it, because his his actual real life
biology is continually getting older. Anyway, it's a pretty
good book. Little long and parts as Stephen King does. But
there's a really cool part where the guy who teaches them about
the portal to go back in time. He's a butcher. And he keeps
going back through the portal and buying really fresh good
meat. That's like, from you know, he buys it from a butcher.
And it's super cheap because it's back in the 50s. So he
takes money from he goes to the bank finds money that's old
enough that they'll accept it in the 50s. Right? He goes, the
bank gets that money, he goes back in time and buys all this
really good beef, brings it to his butcher shop or restaurant,
and then cooks it, and then sells it for really cheap in our
time. So he basically found it extremely sought cheap source of
really good organic beef. And he's serving in his restaurants
and like putting all the other places out of business because
they can't compete with them. So he's using time travel to, you
know, have just make some really good burgers, which is an
excellent use of time travel. Anyway, the story ends up every
time he tries to stop the assassination, he comes back to
his time, everything's all messed up. Because butterfly
effect. So that's a good one. And then what's the show? In
comic book series, Umbrella Academy, had a whole season
based on them trying to stop the assassination. Or trying to keep
it keep it in law. I can't remember. It's been a long time
since I've watched it. But it involved the JFK assassination
and the ramifications of him either not getting assassinated
or getting assassinated. Some people believe that if he had
not gotten assassinated, we would have had a nuclear war.
Yeah, so wait, you know, we'll we'll never know, we'll never
know, we'll never know. So it may have been a good thing. I
hate to say that. But when people are in, have the power to
make huge decisions on the world stage. Little changes in their
life can have extremely bad or good effects for the world. So
get anything else? Nope.
Leila: I just think this is way more interesting than the JFK
assassination.
David: Well, we can do we can do a whole it doesn't have to be a
silly speculation. We can do a whole thing on Lincoln, because
I'd like you to teach me about it. Because you actually, you
think kind of like I do. So you would bring up the parts that I
would find trust. Yeah.
Leila: I think it's cool with like, the whole boarding house
thing that Mary had. Right,
David: this LAN, excellent story. I bet there's a bit
there's like movies about it, probably probably will find
something. But uh, I'd highly recommend you go watch. I think
it's like 30 minutes long or whatever the why people think
the government killed JFK video, he does a really good job. And
he has lots of good sources. I also have some links in the show
notes, the single bullet theory impossible and the single bullet
theory proven to contradicting things. And then the link to
that secret service agent who brings up the new claims about
assassination. We got a lot of good links in the show notes of
this episode. Was it good? And yeah, hopefully next week, we'll
be I'll be using Linux full time. Hopefully
Leila: next week. I will sound better. Yeah.
David: You got to tell. You got to tell folks what you got going
on. Nah, nah. Okay. Secret. Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to be
I don't want to tell people where you're going to be. Yeah.
out in public. Yeah. Anyway. Everybody have a fantastic
weekend. And this has been silly speculation Saturday's
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David: Oh yeah, that's right. Bye, everybody.