David: Welcome to silly speculation. Speculation,
Saturday, allergy day. Allergy
Leila: Yeah, silly speculation, allergy day.
David: There's no got the allergies days of the week to
start with a so we can't do like an allergy day, all
Leila: of the all allergy
David: all day, every day. It's all I do. This is, this is the
Fun Fact Friday feed. But this is a silly speculation Saturday.
What that means is, if you're normally listening to a Fun Fact
Friday, silly speculation Saturdays, we go into topics,
and sometimes they're a little more controversial. Some we do,
some we do some speculating and some ranting and raving about
things. So it's not your typical episode. Talk about a little
more, sometimes a little more disturbing topics. So you know,
listener discretion is advised, if you're letting the kiddos
Listen, what are we? What are we? What are we doing?
Unknown: I don't know. And, like,
David: I read the whole thing, right? But stolen DNA, yeah,
yeah. And other other similar, similar things. We were going
into some stories about the the medical industrial complex and
universities and things like that, doing somewhat, somewhat
shady things, as they do with people's, people's body parts
and, you know, genetic information. But before that,
we're gonna go into our little where we've been doing this
week. Yeah, because, you know, we got, we got stuff going on. I
broke, I broke our internet.
Leila: Yeah, he did, like, don't want to manually fix it.
David: Monday, I was fiddling around with things on the on the
network, as I do, and I broke it. I was didn't set one of the
settings in my pie hole correctly, which is a pie hole
is a whole network ad blocker and DNS server, and I was
setting that up. So we're grabbing DNS from the source
instead of from a DNS service like CloudFlare, Google or ISP,
so we don't have as many people looking at, you know, what we're
typing in on on the internet, you know, less people spying on
us, getting our information. We'll go into that in a minute.
So
Leila: we look up little funny cat videos they can't tell.
Well,
David: it's, you know, they're gonna get information out of
everybody, you know, all of these companies and the
government and all that stuff, they're going to get the
information. But why make it easy for them? You know? Plus,
it lets me block certain things from certain places, like the
computer is constantly asking Microsoft for information, or
sending information from usage from Windows to Microsoft, and
I've blocked those domains, so now that information is not
leaving the computer. It's just, you know, not getting there. So
anyway, I was doing that, and I messed up a setting, and it made
our router go haywire and lost all of our static IP
information, and lost all anyway. Lost internet.
Everything went out. It was a mess. But I took the
opportunity. I took, you know, let no crisis go to waste. So I
took the opportunity to redo some stuff and get get the
network working a whole lot better. Got a nice double
Minecraft server on the network now, so we can not have to pay
Microsoft for realm and but have, we have an always on
server, which is fun, that's cool stuff. And, you know, watch
a bunch of other little services here and there in the network,
and everything's nice and laid out well, and everything,
everything works great. You got the sniffles. So one of the
things that got got us on this topic
Leila: space for someone, there, you have the sniffles, don't
you? Yeah,
David: the sniffles, don't you? Microphones muted
Leila: because I'm sniffling.
David: So we got, we got a message on Mastodon on social
media.com, we're Fun Fact Friday on there. And we got a message,
excuse me,
Leila: and you got a cough, don't you?
David: I got a little cough, a little cough that was talking
about we were last episode. I believe we were talking about
the lady whose cells were being used in a whole lot of stuff.
And we got, we got, I can't remember who we get the message
from. Who's that from? Who's that from? I'm on the wrong
you're at the wrong airport. I'm at the wrong airport. I'm in the
wrong Mastodon account. I was tagged on my personal account,
which is me this@social.me this media.com if anybody wants to
follow me on there, if you're on the Fed. Verse anywhere and I
can't remember my password, there we go, and I can pop into
my notification. This is riveting radio, right? Yeah, it
is listening to, oh, it's cousin Vito. Cousin, yeah, that's
cousin veto. I knew it was one of our regular listeners, Henri
Ella. I even said Henrietta lack, with exclamation
Leila: points, you gotta, we gotta exclaim it. Henrietta
lack,
David: just put a cup over the bug. Just put a cup over the
bug. We couldn't put a cup over the bug. The bug was all tangled
up. We've got wires. We've got XLR cables and USB cables and
little light lights hanging down. We got wire whiteboard
wires everywhere in this ceiling, and there's network,
yeah,
Leila: we have a cable hider that
Unknown: doesn't hide any cables.
Leila: I just noticed that there's no cables in that cable
hider
Unknown: running through the cable hider. That's
Leila: hilarious thing. So it's just more obvious for
decorations.
David: Um, anyway, we ended up catching the bug. We got it
outside. It's all good. It was a stink bug, and it was a stink
bug. You don't want to kill those because they stink. Any
who that gave me the idea? I was like, Henrietta lack Yes, thank
you. I knew it was in my head somewhere. I couldn't get to it.
I was like, that's such an interesting story. Why don't we
do like, an episode about that sort of thing? So we did, we're
just what we're doing. You're listening, you're listening to
them, right? Yeah, I don't know what Leila has been up to this
week. Whole lot of nothing, yeah, whole lot of nothing.
Whole lot of math. Tooting on horns. She's got her, she got
her. What you got, like, four horns now? Yeah,
Leila: I have a flute, I have a saxophone, I got a trumpet, I
got a baritone you
David: gotta, yeah, you're printing a trombone, right?
Yeah, we're 3d printing a trombone. She'll definitely play
that on the show and she gets done. If I yeah, I can, no,
you're playing it. I don't care if it barely makes noise. You're
playing baritone. I
Leila: hear. I don't want to hurt that baritone, actually,
yeah, it's
David: not, not hers. Yeah, it's borrowed. She's borrowing it
from somebody.
Leila: It's expensive. Oh
David: my gosh, yes. Oh yeah. So anyway, Hila cells come from
Henrietta lack, hella, Hila. I think it's Hila because it's
Henrietta lack, so
Leila: hey, but it's not he, he Henrietta. Exactly, but it's
also not Jeff, so, right.
David: So Henrietta was born in her lax. Was born in 1920 in
Virginia,
Leila: Roanoke, Virginia and Roanoke specifically.
David: So she became, she was an African American woman who
became an unwitting donor to one of the most important cell lines
in medical history in 1951 at the age of 31 she sought
treatment at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore for a
painful lump, and she was diagnosed with cancer. Yeah, and
they took some of her cells and without her knowing, yeah, they
were just like, this one himself, yeah, scrape, scrape,
scrape the test tube. They were unique. So, like I was saying in
the other episode, they reproduce indefinitely, yeah, in
a lab setting. So they put them in a little, you know, over
time, normally, like, like, if I put my cells in a little petri
dish to grow, you know, they'd reproduce for a little while,
but after a while they get they'd be like, nah, this ain't
worth it. We even on David, why are we reproducing here? Yeah,
so, since they can reproduce, right, they've got infinite
cells of the same genetic makeup, which is perfect for
experimenting on. Because, you know, normally, like, you're
like, Okay, well, this does, like, resupply exactly, expires,
expires. So, like, you have to get a different person cells and
things may react differently. I know a lot of some, like pain
pills work great for Phaedra, but not for me. You know,
different people, different DNA things, but if you have all the
same cells, you can do a whole lot of, a lot more testing and
whatnot. So they were like, cool, we got it. We got a gold
mine here, right? We can do all kinds of, all kinds of testing.
Yeah. Well, they didn't ask,
Leila: yeah, they just kind of took it
David: from her. They were like, so yeah, we got, we got these
cells. We're just gonna keep doing stuff with them, and we're
gonna, we're gonna sell this research, and we're gonna make a
whole lot of money making pharmaceuticals for different
things and cosmetics and, yeah, all kinds of good stuff. It
Leila: helped with the polio vaccine. Helped to be developed
successfully.
David: It also helped with cancer research. Her cells been
used with cancer and cancer research, genetic research, heck
yeah, space research, because they wanted to study the effects
of zero gravity on human cells.
Leila: I just threw a Petri dish. The space, yeah, so I'm
thinking about sling
Unknown: shot it up there, like, like, it's a road runner
cartoon. Just keeps going.
David: And in in vitro fertilization techniques were
used, or were, you know, anyway, there's a whole lot of people
out there making a whole lot of money. That would not be
possible if we were not for Henrietta Lacks, yeah, her
family was not even informed that of her cell use until the
70s.
Leila: They didn't get any stuff from Lady. Didn't get benefit,
no, from it.
David: No. It's like, if Henrietta Lacks had written a
book and had the copyright to it, anybody who uses that book,
she could, you know, she would get money for it, licensing
fees, royalties, things like that, or wrote a song, you know.
But the most private of all data, your DNA, you know, yeah,
it's like that there. You just used it willy nilly without even
telling her, yeah. Like, wow, that's, that's pretty cruddy it
is. And the 70s, the LAX family was living in poverty, couldn't
afford health insurance, which is, you know, interesting,
because her cells are out there making medicines and stuff,
probably that they couldn't afford. Yeah, you know, it's,
it's a, it's a messed up story. It is. However, in 19, no in
2013 the NIH National Institutes for Health gave some control of
Henrietta's genome data to the Lacks family, which you know
Henrietta has, you know, passed away. She was born Loretta. Her
first name was actually Loretta, and her family does not know why
she goes by Henrietta.
Unknown: Maybe she's like, Yes. She's like, Yeah, that's like,
Henrietta better, yeah, um,
David: I've known people who just had a nickname that was
just another normal name, like the guy's name was Mike, and he
went by Tom, or is it your middle name? It's like, Nah, I
like Tom. That's just the name I picked. Okay, go for it, buddy.
Now, in 2020 the Howard Hughes Medical Institute made a very
like created a significant grant and gave it to the Henrietta
Lacks foundation. What's up, buddy? Yes, a grant is free
money. We're looking, we're looking for grants for Fun Fact
Friday. So if anybody knows about any grants out there that
we could apply for, just for being, you know, the greatest
podcast in the world now is a free money, or, like, tax money.
No, it's free money. It's a lot of grants do come from the
government.
Unknown: Yeah?
David: Now, okay, now, okay. So, yes, those come come out of
taxes, yeah, but then there are companies and organizations that
give grants also. Now, yeah, if you get a grant from an
organization, you do have to pay taxes on that. I'm not sure
about the ones that you get from the government. It wouldn't make
probably
Leila: still have to pay more taxes on it. Yes, the
government,
David: yes, yes. They want, like, money. They gotta, they
gotta keep that governor's mansion looking nice, you know,
so people can go visit it. They gotta pay for that sunshine and
clean air. That's all we want to say, yeah, that's all we want to
say on that tax has got to pay for sunshine and clean air. Yep,
she passed away in 1951 but her cell cells are still being used.
So that's crazy. Yeah, well, I was talking about last week, I
was like, with the makeup,
Leila: so I wonder if she, like, is still living down there, like
her cells are still wiggling around,
Unknown: hmm, like, well, oh,
David: I don't know, because, like, you would It would need it
in a in a lab setting, they have certain, um, true, like,
variables, nutrients. They're called petri dishes.
Leila: Well, yeah, I just said that. I was just talking about
petri dishes. I love petri dishes. Yeah, dope. I
David: remember we used to grow we did a an experiment in high
school with petri dishes, and we had, like, a contest to see who
could make the largest bacterial or viral colony in one week. Oh,
that's a dope. So we had to go and, like, find the grossest
thing that we could find and swab it and bring it back and
put the sample into the petri dish. And the person who won, I
was on a group of different people, anyway, long story
short, the grossest thing at our high school, which is the high
school goes to now,
Unknown: oh yeah,
David: grossest thing doesn't exist there anymore. It was the
pay phone mouthpiece, I
Leila: bet, yep, because
David: everybody's talking into it, they're calling, they're
coughing into it and touching it and spittle and, you know, all
the gross stuff touching. Oh, but anyway, it it like, filled
up the picture. I
Leila: was like, swab one of the doors. Knobs or something. Well,
the door knobs, you
David: got to think a lot. Most a lot of people wash their
hands. And they would, you know, they'd wipe them off fairly
regularly. And then some people, like, I knew a lot of girls, it
was a style at the time to wear your sleeves over your hands.
Were like, just like the tips of your fingers. And then they cut
a thumb hole and like, so they're essentially wiping the
stuff off of the door handle every time they use it. So but,
yeah, the mouthpiece on the Oh, no, you
Leila: know what I do. But the handrails underneath the
handrails, yeah,
David: because nobody cleans that ever. And
Leila: it's very evident, because the stairs are like
caving in, kind of like they're made of stone, but the stones
have divots in them. Oh yeah,
David: there's wear marks.
Leila: Oh yeah, absolutely old school and everyone never
redone. Moves around like every hour and a half.
David: So yeah, Henrietta Lacks was not the only person that
this sort of thing has happened to over the years. Oh, do you
want to go into one of the other ones. Uh, sure, I'm gonna take a
drink of my tea. So this
Leila: dude named John, John, he had leukemia. He was a leukemia
patient. He was treated at the University of California, oh,
the medical center the University of California, in the
late 1970s and his spleen was removed part as part of the
medical procedure, and they took it from him and proceeded to
like work on it for research. Uh huh,
Unknown: I was drinking, but tea, I could tell.
Leila: So they took the proteins, and Moe was asked or
John, Moe is his name. He was asked to return to UCLA several
times for follow up treatments and samples kept being taken
from him without him knowing.
David: Yeah seems to be a thing. Yeah that they do makes you
wonder how many samples they've got from us. Yeah, that they
kept, of course, we're not going to university hospitals. We're
going to urgent care. I don't think that they fast mid so
Leila: he eventually found out, because it's, it's pretty easy
to find out if they're taking tickets before you
David: well, they were using it commercially. Yeah, they were.
Leila: They used it as a Moe
David: cells, Moe cells. They just call it Moe cell and like
it, like the HeLa cells, hella cells, yeah, in hella, whatever
Leila: he lay cells.
David: These are just Moe get some Moe cells.
Leila: It's not like,
Unknown: are you saying get the MOE cells? Are you saying
getting more cells?
Leila: Oh my gosh, they need to call them the Jomo cells. Was
David: that? Oh, Joe. Moe, yeah. John. Moe, so there was a
lawsuit.
Leila: Yeah. Moe tried to claim rights over his own biological
materials, because why not arguing that he should share the
profits generated from his cells. So he's not like asking
for all the profits. He's just asking, Hey, give me a cut. Hey,
could I kind of get some of the money, since it's kind of my
body,
David: yeah? They, um, Didn't somebody uh, Pat, yeah. They uh,
Dr gold patented the cell line. So they took, yeah, they took
his cells without permission, without his knowledge, and then
did some work on them, and then patented it.
Leila: Yeah, they were like, I think I think I'll think, I'll
take this.
Unknown: This is, this is my invention. This is mine now,
David: like that meme. So, yeah, the there was a big legal case.
Go ahead, yeah,
Leila: they ruled that he did not have property rights over
his own cells after they were exercised from his body, because
recognizing such rights could hinder medical research by
creating a marketplace for bodies or for body parts or
cells, which like, okay,
David: so yeah, the until it was
Leila: just like, consensual taking of body parts. And that's
David: the part that confused research saying he did not have
property rights over his cells, but nobody else should have
property rights over his cells either. Yeah, that's, that's the
thing that I don't understand. Because, like,
Leila: if I came up to you right now and took your liver out,
right? Yeah, that's mine now, uh huh, that's my property because
I took it
David: well, yeah, what is it? Um, possessions, nine tenths of
the law, you know, whoever's got the livers, it's their liver.
Yeah, it's
Leila: my liver, man, now I got two livers the um that,
Unknown: so
David: if he doesn't have okay? So basically, the problem that I
had, like I was saying about the problem I have, is, how can they
patent it? It's his cell, and they didn't have his but then
they say, Well, you don't have property rights over it. It's
messed up, like I was. Thing, he wrote a song, yeah, you know,
and then somebody stole his song, but he had, he's got
copyright first, yeah, he's got a copyright of his spleen, you
know, technically, his parents kind of have the copyright,
yeah, because they wrote the code, you know, they came up
with the code unwittingly. But some people write songs
unwittingly, eventually, Moe did get the property rights to his
cells, yeah, so it was that, and
Leila: it did raise, like, uh, awareness, yeah, yeah, of
consent to be researched on, yeah,
David: it was Moe versus the regents of University of
California, yeah. So it was a big, big, big court case, and
the the other big issue was informed consent, because he did
sign a thing saying, Yeah, you can take, take the stuff from
me, but he didn't realize that he was signing the rights away
for him, for them to go patent it and use it in medicines.
Yeah. So
Leila: I wonder how much of the form that he signed he read, oh,
very
David: little. They don't even let you read stuff unless you
specifically asked. I took Leila to one of her, one of her
appointments at one point, and they just have this little, it's
like a little you pick up the stylist? And it's like, one of
the
Leila: the checkout things, yeah, it's just, like a little
gray screen sign right there. And
David: I'm like, What am I signing for? Oh, just consent
that we're, you know, we can treat you. And I'm like, What
can I read the consent form? Because I don't want to consent
something that I don't want to consent to. And she's like,
Unknown: she had to go find which is above where she was
literally
David: right next to her. It was laminated hanging on the wall.
So somebody asked. But I've heard of some hospitals and
university hospitals and things like that will slip things into
that consent form that you in the fine print might want to be
reading those right? It might be worth your time. And I've
actually been
Leila: researching like ethicality, of the ethicalness,
the ethicalities, the wheel of ethicality. Oh, my gosh, of
products and goods and services recently marketing,
David: marketing, right? So, yeah, it's
Leila: something we have to research, and we have to
actively, like, work on, yeah,
David: and for the class I'm taking, one of the things that
you have to be careful with, like, I'm going to talk about
something here in a little while, going to give a
disclaimer on for legal reasons, because if you talk about
companies or people, you have to say allegedly on things you know
you have to say that, or you they can come after you for
defamation. If you say something negative and they feel and they
can prove that it might have cost them money by you saying
something negative, then you're liable for
Leila: that. Yeah, and we're talking about liabilities
philosophy,
David: yeah, it's, it's a thing, and especially with us being a,
you know, we're not covered by, like, like YouTube will do
strikes against you. Take your take your videos off for legal
reasons. We're kind of, we're out here on our own, so we got
to be real careful about what we say about people and products
Leila: and companies and corporations, right?
David: And, I mean, everything we say is just our opinion.
Leila: Yeah, it's like our opinion. Do you even
David: know where that's from? Big Lebowski, I've
Leila: never seen it. Okay.
David: You know the scene, though? Yes, know what it's
from. So, yeah, that was Joe. Moe. Oh, sorry, just Moe. Just
Moe. Should be Joe. Should be Jo Moe. There's county eastern
North Carolina, called Johnston County. Everybody calls it JOCO
JOCO.
Leila: If you had a homecoming in Johnston County, would it be
JOCO HoCo? Yes, awesome. 100% that's awesome.
David: So then let's see, what else do we have? Oh, we have
another board of regents. Oh, yeah, another court case. The is
this one about have a super Eye Tribe. Have a soupy tribe.
Unknown: I said it wrong. We just looked at
Leila: the pronunciation twice, too. You read like three videos
about it. Very sorry. Read three videos,
David: listen to three videos on it did, didn't stick.
Apparently, you
Leila: know what happened? What I miss, like, you know that
thing I have with the numbers where I can't read numbers out
loud. I've been doing the announcements the past two days
or so. And there's like, dates for classes that you need to go
take, like driver said, and I was like, the 16th, uh,
David: on october 11, yeah,
Leila: on October 16, and it said like, 12th,
Unknown: oh, no, not the 16th, the 12th, scratch that.
Leila: No one listens anyway, it's
David: fine. Isn't tomorrow? The 12th? No,
Leila: no. What is tomorrow? Two days?
David: Oh, tomorrow is yesterday. Yeah. Tomorrow
Leila: is yesterday, 11th is yesterday? No, today is the
12th,
David: yes, yes, 11th is so the 12th, so
Leila: yesterday was the 11th, today is the 12th, okay?
Unknown: And
Leila: Thursday, yeah,
David: wait a minute. What? We did not celebrate our half
birthdays.
Unknown: I don't know about you, but I was last month,
Leila: I was big chilling on my half birthday.
David: I didn't give you a half a cake and sing happy. Do you?
Leila: Dude, we could do it right now.
Unknown: Come on.
Leila: You ready? Okay, we're gonna sing it to each other. So
we gotta sing at the same time. It
David: would have to be we have to only sing every other word.
Leila: Well, let me, let me. Oh, wait. You know what? You know
what we should do. Wait. Happy Birthday lyric,
David: okay. Lyrics, okay, and now I'm gonna take the Happy
Birthday lyric, oh, no, okay,
Unknown: no, wait,
no, yeah,
Leila: no, let me, let me talk. So I say happy, you say
birthday, I say to and you say you. So we'd like every other
word.
David: All right, we'll give it a go. All right, uh, are you
starting this
Leila: is like, absolutely wrong. What the heck it says
from good friends and true, from old friends and new May good
luck. Go with you to happiness to those the other verses, your
name, really, everybody just does the first ones, all right.
Well, let's just do the first one as well. Of course,
Unknown: go Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.
Leila: Happy
Unknown: birthday dear David. Happy birthday to
David: brilliant. It's amazing. Thank you. What
Leila: were you gonna say?
Unknown: What do you always gonna say? You got another idea?
David: Oh, I was gonna pull up Groke and be like, what is like?
Show me the lyrics to Happy birthday, but only ever that
worked. So
Leila: happy to Dear happy to or birthday you birthday, you
birthday Leila birthday you
Unknown: right? So that's better. That is better than the
birthday wait.
Leila: Okay, let me sing you your happy birthday song,
birthday you
Unknown: birthday, you birthday David birthday you brilliant,
Okay, brilliant,
you sing it in me,
birthday, you birthday. You birthday Leila birthday. You
better song than the
David: we need to copyright that. And we just did, yeah, we
just did, put a stamp on it, copyright it, all, right, what?
What is this? Anyways, okay, I had something pulled up. Okay,
so be in Arizona. Have a soupy, that's right, we got real off
track. Yeah, we did. All right, so basically, they the Arizona,
Arizona board of bridges. I'll cut that out. I'll edit it out.
Yeah, the overs. It oversees the Arizona State University, they
misused genetic samples. Initially, blood samples were
collected from the tribe members in the 90s for research
reportedly aimed at understanding genetic basis of
type two diabetes, a significant health issue within the tribe.
Researchers, they research things beyond diabetes, and they
include that. Those things include schizophrenia,
inbreeding and human migration patterns, using the samples
without an informed consent. So that informed consent comes out
again, like you, if you're going to do something with somebody
medically, you got to have in court informed consent. The
person who is agreeing to the thing. Has to understand what
they are agreeing to, whether it be them getting a jab. They need
to know what, what's in the jab, what's the, you know, all the
stuff behind that. Anyway, there's lawsuit in 2004 tribe
members. Tribe members file a lawsuit against the Arizona
board of regents. They claimed it was that their genetic
materials were just used. They were not informed how the
samples would be used, and yeah, it was invasion of privacy, and
it caused emotional distress, because their cells are being
used for things they didn't approve of, and violation of
civil rights. I'm just, you know, I'm sure the ones, just
the ones that. Went in, I'm sure they didn't like go to every
person in that tribe and jab them and suck their blood out.
You know, it's probably just when they went
Leila: in plot twist, they were vampires.
David: You never know silly speculation Saturday that make a
lot of sense. Why they always wanted to get your blood. Yeah,
little snack. They ended up giving financial compensation of
$700,000 to the tribe, and they returned all the blood samples,
I guess the you know where they had left of them, and they
funded a scholarship for the tribe for students, and it also
aided them in obtaining federal funding for a health clinic. So
it came out, it's not bad, it's not a bad that's not a that's
pretty good scholarship, $700,000 I feel like, I feel
like they made it right. That feels like, I feel like I'd be
okay with that, yeah, you know, if it helps the kids and get a,
get a good health clinic out of it and everything, and that, you
know, it all comes down to community, trust, informed
consent. There was some legal precedents set. It got this says
that it got considerable attention in the media. I don't
recall seeing it, but I'm also not in Arizona or anywhere near
where that tribe? I think most of the tribes here were, like,
the Cherokee. We had a lot of tribes here. Yeah, there was a
lot. Leila did the thing in like, third grade about it, and
we were, I was like, wow, like, every river had its own tribe.
It's pretty cool. It
Leila: is really dope. It's really neat. Sometimes pretty
cool. Public
David: sentiment largely supported the tribe's rights to
control their own genetic material. And, you know, genetic
material, I feel like, Yeah, especially in this day and age,
I hate that expression. You got to protect that stuff. Case in
point, 23andme this comes from NPR, so this is not my, my
words. This is alleged. No, this is, this is all factual stuff.
Okay, they're looking at they might be go. They're on the
verge of collapse. They're not doing great financially.
Leila: Oh yeah, I
David: heard about that, yeah. And, like, apparently their
whole board of directors quit all at one time. Oh yeah. So now
everybody's like, Okay, if this company collapses, what happens
to my data?
Leila: Yeah, my spit.
David: What do you what are you doing with my spit?
Unknown: So they're like, funny
Leila: to me, what they just spit in the tube? You send it to
someone, yep,
David: makes it makes you want to, like, like, choose something
really gross before you exactly so when they open it up to smell
it, when asked what 23 me plans to do with the genetic data if
they go out of business, a spokesman said, That's right. He
didn't say anything. But guess what? He did mention, what that
they have a partnership with GlaxoSmithKline, which is
GlaxoSmithKline is a pharmaceutical company. Oh,
good. One of the big ones, it's been analyzing the data and
trying to find medical breakthroughs using your data.
Now you have to do you do have to opt into that, and 80% of
customers did. So. People were quite possible. People were
like, Yeah, I don't know if I feel good about opting into that
now, especially after you hear this episode and you hear what
they've done, what places have done in the past with genetic
materials, making billions of dollars off of it, not giving
you a penny. So the 23 me spokesman said that the company
is committed to being transparent and whatever happens
with the data, saying that its core value is quote, behind
every data point is a human being. So anyway, I'm, I'm, I'm
just glad that I was never I was curious about it. I was like,
that'd be neat, but I don't want to send my DNA to some company
that then they'll have my DNA, because I've heard and this is
silly speculation. Saturday, I can talk about all kinds of
stuff. I'm not talking about 23andme but I have heard rumors
and, you know, like crazy conspiracy theories, which have
pretty good track record recently. Yeah, that there are
world actors out there that are working on making genetic
weapons, so they could just, that's fun. Anybody who's got
DNA real close to yours, they're just like, You know what? Let's
just, let's just attack them with this sickness. And only
people with Isn't that against the Geneva Convention, only
people with green eyes. Yeah, but you would never know,
because you would it would just people getting sick. Mm. Hmm.
And they would have to do a lot of research to figure out
Unknown: who cares about the Geneva Convention if no one
finds out seriously? Well,
David: the Geneva Convention is for countries, yeah. So if
you've got a rogue
Leila: so, like, you can't use biological warfare in war,
right?
David: Just like or against another country. There's a lot
of stuff in the Geneva Convention that soldiers can't
do, yeah, on behalf of their governments. But if I did it to
somebody, a tri pointed knife, a triangle shaped knife, I can
purchase and use a triangle shaped knife a soldier cannot,
which is just so weird to me, because you can, you can shoot
to punch a hole in somebody, but you can't do it up close. Yeah,
I don't understand. I don't want anybody shooting or stabbing
each other because of their government told them to,
Leila: but I feel like it'd be the other way around. But, yeah,
like knife fights are fun. You gotta get in there with you
gotta get in there if,
David: if all combat had to be guns are cheating. If it had to
be hand to hand, the wars would be a lot different. Exactly.
Guns
Leila: are cheating. You gotta, like, get up in there, yeah,
yeah.
David: But yeah, the Geneva Convention doesn't really apply.
Yeah, you can't. I think you can get tried for, like, human
rights abuses and stuff like that. Interesting. You cannot
highlight anything on the NPR web page. I mean, I bet I can't
if I go to View Page Source, it's a.com Wow. Look at the view
page source on NPR. What?
Unknown: What did they do down there for?
David: That's neat. Go to, okay, so the link, there's a link in
the show notes for, oh, you're 23 of me go to the web page and
on a computer and right click and do view page source, and
scroll down to line 56
Unknown: there's, they have a cool little hidden thing.
They got a little thing in there. I'm not going to tell you
what it is. You got to go do it yourself. Yeah, really, fine.
I love that. I'm
going to do that to our website. Yes, that looks
Leila: very organized.
David: Oh, this, yo, yeah. They use a content system. They they
didn't sit and write this like a handwriter. They have a program
that is it for them, trying to see if I could see what program
it was, but cookie law.org script template.
Unknown: They use a template. What is cookie law.org you're
gonna get a virus. Oh, cookie. Law.org
David: I don't get viruses. Arg, are you ready? Kids, has anybody
we went out and got the Krabby Patty. Is okay? We got the
Krabby Patty. It tasted like a hamburger.
Leila: Oh, you know what? We gotta go get what? There's a
chicken Big Mac that just came out. This is not advertising.
There's a chicken big bag. I don't think I'm wrong.
David: I may have to go get that for lunch tomorrow. No,
Leila: okay, as long as I eventually get one, get
David: one. Yeah. All right, everybody, we're gonna move on
to the, oh, wow. We're at 37 minutes. All right, let's, let's
move on to the value for value segment, we have two PayPals and
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They have Oreo coke now, and coke flavored Oreo. Yeah,
Unknown: it's really bad. Have
you tried it? Yes.
Leila: Okay, my friend, my best friend, brings, like, a
different flavor of Oreos every single day. And she's like, Yo
you wanna? You wanna coke Oreo? And I'm like, Sure. And then I
ate it, and I spit it out immediately, because it
Unknown: tasted like trash. That's terrible. Sorry,
Leila: there goes our Oreo sponsorship
Unknown: and our Coke sponsorship.
Leila: But it tasted like, I don't really know how to explain
it. It tasted like COVID 19, if it was made
Unknown: into a cookie, it tasted like a water rocks in it.
It tasted like a water level from Mario.
Leila: It did. It did, honestly. But thank you Dreb Scott for the
donation, yes, thank
David: you so much. And then $10 from Stephen Grimes, thank you
so much for that. Yeah, we Yeah. That pays for our hosting and
keeps us up and running.
Leila: So the best Oreo flavor that I've tried so far is
probably either the Dark Chocolate Oreo or with the
tiramisu, like thin ones or just the regular, the regular thins
are really good.
David: Just all the thins are perfect. I really like just the
black part of the Oreo.
Leila: Yeah, the dark chocolate ones taste just like a black
Oreo. Oh, really, like the cream is darker, so it Oh, okay, I'll
give those a try. They're
Unknown: pretty good. Anywho.
David: Y'all have a fantastic weekend, and we'll see you next
time. It might be a fun fact Friday, it might be a silly
speculation.
Leila: Saturday might be something, something I might
have an idea for what we do next. We gotta see if it's gonna
be good. All right, so I'll tell you in the next episode if
that's. What I chose, and we may actually release
David: this on Friday. So all those dates we were talking
about earlier are just completely wrong. Everybody.
Have a fantastic weekend. We'll see you next time. Bye.
Leila: We're gonna ignore what just happened. The off button,
and we had to, we had to tack this onto the Oh,
Unknown: fun thing. I'm gonna actually have to spend a
production.
Leila: That's okay. We just shove this one.
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